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Based on American definitions of binge drinking, one bottle of wine is a "binge".

In the UK (and probably most of Europe) that's what we have with a social lunch.




One bottle of wine really is too much for a single person.

It's really not normal to drink that much over lunch in Europe. Maybe at a party.


A "social lunch" is very different from "lunch". Arguably a "social lunch" is a kind of day-drinking party, in my experience.


Very true.

American drinking culture is rather different. I recall American work colleagues visiting us being horrified at going out for a lunchtime pint. ("What if your manager or HR finds out"; "Errm, we're joining them, they are already there"). They never even got to see the Friday night carnage that goes on in most British pubs.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol...

The WHO data suggests that Americans drink about 4ml less alcohol a day than Brits.


Consumption != Culture


As an Englishman I thought I understood binge drinking pretty well. Then I went to Japan...


I think the Japanese get drunk more easily on less alcohol, but yeah the number of falling down drunk people I saw in Tokyo was oddly high.


I think the surgeon general of Basque recommends no more than 7 glasses of wine a day.


Really? One person drinking five glasses of wine over lunch seems normal to you?

Looking at the UK guidelines, a bottle of wine is generally ten units and they suggest under fourteen units a week spread out over three or more days. So that "social lunch" seems to be binge drinking in the UK too.


I am talking about a social lunch, not a working lunch (i.e. it's no longer the norm like it used to be on Friday lunchtimes in the City).


Your government would still consider it drinking in excess of their guidelines, which is binge drinking. One of your other comments suggests you know this, as you're aware that it's not something you should do everyday.


Yes, I agree that is what the government say. I'm just telling you what happens in reality.

And I don't do it every day because I am old and hangovers are now a multi-day affair. In my younger days I could have easily done Friday, Saturday and possibly Sunday.


There is a fair difference between the American social norms and the American health care system.


You said 'we' and would probably split a bottle of wine at lunch.


I should have added "each".


Each person drinks a bottle of wine? Bullshit.


You really haven't been to northern Europe have you?


At least in Finland, no, that wouldn’t be normal. I’m sure there are people who drink a bottle of wine (or equivalent) during lunch, but that would definitely raise some serious eyebrows among most people.


You're telling me that people go to lunch, drink a bottle of wine in an hour and go back to work?

I drink a lot and I'd never do something like that. You'd be too drunk to drive.


> You're telling me that people go to lunch, drink a bottle of wine in an hour and go back to work?

Social lunch != working lunch

Though a pint or two or sharing a bottle of wine (not one each) at a working lunch is hardly unusual in Blighty.

> You'd be too drunk to drive.

One doesn't need to drive into London nor most commuter cities.


In the USA it's often called "day drinking" and it usually coincides with brunch (never heard the term "social lunch" here) on the weekend. As in "rosé all day", or "bottomless bloody mary's" with a brunch purchase, etc.


Well drinking on the weekends is normal everywhere so I don't know what is being conveyed here.


I mean I wouldn't do it every day, but if I went to, say, dinner in the evening or Sunday lunch (and obviously didn't have to drive) I could drink a bottle of wine over the course of a 2-3 hour meal easily.




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