Whenever someone talks about how dirty SF is, you know they confined themselves to SOMA, TL, the Mission and maybe North Beach. The rest of the city is about as clean as any big city in the US. There's nothing particularly dirty about the Sunset, Richmond, Pac Heights, Cole Valley, Parnassus, Diamond Heights, West Portal, Forrest Hill, Russian Hill, Glen Park, or the other neighborhoods that make up most of San Francisco.
In contrast, I now live in NYC and while there are no distinct "human poo" neighborhoods as there are in SF, the entire city is covered with a layer of grime and garbage from Manhattan all the way out to the furthest stops in Brooklyn and Queens. This was simply not the case where I lived in SF, on top of 17th street.
The same applies to the weather. Anyone who thinks SF has great weather has never spent much time west of Twin Peaks. It is foggy and cold most of the time.
People who think that San Francisco weather is terrible are typically from places like Los Angeles (where I'm from) or other places that equate excruciating heat with nice weather. I actually like the cold and rain, and it only lasts for a few months. Put on a dang sweater and man up.
It's worth noting here that it was 80 degrees in San Francisco today. In November.
I'm from Minnesota, and I didn't think the weather in SF was terrible, but I definitely thought it was weird that in SF it would be 80 degrees one day in November and 50 degrees and foggy all summer.
"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."
(While usually attributed to Mark Twain, the actual source of these words of wisdom is unknown - there is no evidence that Mark Twain ever said this.) from: http://www.nps.gov/alcatraz/
The trick to SF's summers is that they occur later in the year (the Indian Summer) we get our best weather in September/October (heck today was awesome)
SF's weather is good when it isn't raining. Man, winter's coming and its going to get cold and raining till March. We're having a few good days of weather left, so enjoy it while you can!
I agree regarding cleanliness. Soma is filthy. Mission is somewhat dirty. South beach, north beach, the hills, marina, etc - all very clean.
> Anyone who thinks SF has great weather has never spent much time west of Twin Peaks. It is foggy and cold most of the time.
I think sf has great weather BECAUSE I confine myself to east of twin peaks. I don't understand how people complain about sunny and 65-75 9/10 days a year.
In contrast, I now live in NYC and while there are no distinct "human poo" neighborhoods as there are in SF, the entire city is covered with a layer of grime and garbage from Manhattan all the way out to the furthest stops in Brooklyn and Queens. This was simply not the case where I lived in SF, on top of 17th street.
The same applies to the weather. Anyone who thinks SF has great weather has never spent much time west of Twin Peaks. It is foggy and cold most of the time.