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Didn't pan out because it's not the plan to pan out. The plan is to make people think there's something wrong with them and recycle them with insurance.


It didn't pan out because attempts to replicate it didn't work. He seems like another LSD abuser who thinks every idea they have is good or maybe a grifter who wanted to maintain interest in fruitless theories.


> always the persecutory delusions, belief that they are some king or prophet/chosen one, disorganized thinking, and word salads. Why is it always the same symptoms?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell_effect

Your argument is as good as calling Martha Mitchell crazy and dismissing entirely possible organized exploitation on a premise of made-up symptoms that are composed of zero scientific evidence.


This is actually a ridiculous answer. So you claim if you get get cold turkey'ed on Zyprexa you won't hallucinate or have mania? You claim, there are people out there, who take a dopamine antagonist without getting diabetes, organ issues, loss of self (fundamentally this is what these drugs do, deprive of brain function) and ultimately sudden death?


I made no statements remotely like this.


> Schizophrenia has very specific and easily observed symptoms and is specifically affected by medications such as Zyprexa that doesn’t cause similar changes in behavior for people without schizophrenia or psychosis.

By the nature of these drugs, each and every symptom of what you pronounce Schizophrenia would be your daily life once on the poisonous neuro-toxic agents.


This doesn't seem science-backed and feels more emotional.


Whatever feels for you emotional or not is irrelevant. It is science-backed that each and every "Schizophrenia" symptom of a book that resembles the bible and nothing else (going by the name of DSM) is a product of chemically induced damage and torture with neuro-toxic poison.


It is not science-backed the schizophrenia is caused by schizophrenia medication. That doesn't even account for people who have psychosis evident of schizophrenia but have never taken medication.


> It is not science-backed the schizophrenia is caused by schizophrenia medication It truly is. The fact psychosis can be caused by alchohol withdrawal even (delirium) is irrelevant. Psychiatric "medications" directly cause schizophrenic symptoms and everything, hallucinations included. They not only lobotomize people, but also cause tremendous suffering and non reversible permanent damage. If you really believe all this, you should check your facts straight.


Do you have any sources for this? No offense, but this sounds a bit crazy. Again, this doesn't account for people who are unmedicated and clearly have symptoms. Schizophrenia doesn't seem to be caused by Schizophrenia medication, that doesn't even make sense. How would they get the medication then?


The "medication" is not something anyone gets better with. They become easier to deal with and they essentially live less, both in terms of effective living (thinking, talking, creating) as well as long-term living (life span reduction). As far as your request per sources, here it is:

https://www.madinamerica.com/critical-psychiatry-textbook-2/

A background on the author:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_C._G%C3%B8tzsche


I feel like you don’t know anyone personally who has schizophrenia or you wouldn’t dare to say this. People tend to develop schizophrenia in young adulthood and it’s not after taking antipsychotics they take antipsychotics after developing schizophrenia. Schizophrenia existed before the development of antipsychotic medications, that’s why they were developed at all.

There’s nothing to glorify in schizophrenia- it’s in many ways worse than losing your loved ones in a tragic accident. It’s even worse for the schizophrenic who after having a normal life descends into paranoid delusion and take on an existence of misery.

I know the right answer here is for me to ignore and walk on but it’s hard to do so and leave statements like these unqualified.


I dare to say this because I really know what I am talking about. Every symptom of what you call "Schizophrenia", cited by the bible-like book going of the name DSM, is directly caused by dopamine antagonists. I am not saying "Schizophrenia" does not exist by itself, I am just saying that it's being categorized as well as treated in a specific manner on purpose. There are far better alternatives and remedies one could actually utilize to achieve better therapeutic results. And by the way, it has been scientifically proven that people without "medication" do better long-term.


This.


Big pharma expanding psychiatric propaganda.


The primary concern would be one of electrolytes: sodium, potassium and magnesium. Each person is different of course and he should consult his doctor before engaging into a water fast.


Well said.


From the ~5 search queries I have done so far, it's not like "wow" but more like "yes".


People throwing around labels like "bipolar" or "schizophrenic" without factual scientific evidence of what those labels really are is the real problem in the pursuit for scientific truth.


Bipolarity is mood regulation issue. You have two phases, manic and depressive. You can have issues getting out of manic phases, depressive phases, or both. My mother issue was only with regulating manic phases, that were notably triggered by NSAIDs (and some food). She got out after a day or two. Probably triggered around her 28-30 year old. She lost her marriage, friends and my sister to her mood swings. Nowadays, with lithium, she's much more stable.

Why are you implying I'm throwing around labels? Do you think I never read anything about bipolarity? Do you want to enter a citations battle, where I cite studies on bipolarity? And which scientific truth? That mood regulator help regulate mood? I mean, it's their names, I saw the results, do you want citations on that?


I am really sorry for your mother and hope she is well. However, I do not agree that lithium is the answer you're looking for, nor the fact that she has mood swings is the problem. The problem is the reason behind the mood swings. Treating symptoms will never bring an effective solution to the problem. I can only imagine the cognitive overhaul and deterioration that comes with substances that mess with electrolytes (lithium). No matter what you read on "bipolarity", it lacks critical and fundamental deterministic proof. Don't get me wrong but, I like problems solved, not pretending to implement a "lithium" patch that completely and effectively blunts quality of life.


If you go off your meds you go to a bad place pretty quickly and that's called withdrawals, in most cases which are protracted. You have been massively misinformed and led to believe there's something wrong with "you" as an entity when in fact you just have a great deal of metabolic damage caused by a vast amount of different experiences such as eating super-processed foods, having some mild food intolerance on specific foods that greatly impacts your mood, and overall great mitochondrial dysfunction. It is of increasing evidence that the keto-genic diet and being in ketosis makes quitting those meds much more easier and it is for a fact those meds cause directly what they claim to treat. Good luck.


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