Seems like sama may have put a big hole in that argument when he tweeted "her", now it is very easy to say that they knowingly cloned ScarJo's likeness. When will tech leaders learn to stop tweeting.
They can say they had a certain thing in mind, which was to produce something like ‘Her’, and obviously Scarjo would have sold it home for them if she participated. But in lieu of the fact that she didn’t, they still went out and created what they had in mind, which was something LIKE ‘Her’. That doesn’t sound illegal.
Not illegal, because this would be a civil case. But they’re on thin ice because there’s a big difference between “creating something like Her” and “creating something like Scarlet Johansson’s performance in Her”.
Creating something like Her is creating something like Scarlet Johansson’s performance of her. The whole point is to hit the same note, which is a voice and an aesthetic and a sensibility. That’s the point! She wasn’t willing to do it. If they hit the same note without training on her voice, then I think that’s fair game.
Yeah, influential people shouldn't get to functionally own a "likeness." It's not a fingerprint. An actor shouldn't credibly worry about getting work because a rich/famous doppelganger exists (which may threaten clientele).
Explicit brand reference? Bad. Circumstantial insinuation? Let it go.
What else does a famous actor have but a likeness? What if their likeness is appropriated to support a cause they disagree with, or a job they declined for moral or ethical reasons? The public will still associate them first and they will bear the consequences.
A famous actor still has acting, name recognition, and generally mountains of cash. But should not get to call dibs on some vague "likeness" simply because they got hot first. Someone shouldn't damage/lose their livelihood because their famous doppelganger iced them out.
I heard the voice before hearing this news and didn't recognize her, but it's crazy if they really cloned her voice without her permission. Even worse somehow since they did such a bad job at it.
only when they can get a bigger fix from something else.
it takes more than money to fuel these types, and they would have far better minders and bumpers if the downside outweighed the upside. they aren’t stupid, just addicted.
musk was addict smart, owned up to his proclivities and bought the cartel.
That’s a weaksauce argument IMO. The character was played by SJ. Depictions of this character necessarily have to be depictions of the voice actress.
Your argument may be stronger if OpenAI said something like “the movie studio owns the rights to this character’s likeness, so we approached them,” but it’s not clear they attempted that.
Yes, that would be a copyright violation on top of everything else.
Great idea though!
I'm going to start selling Keanu Reeves T-Shirts using this little trick.
See, I'm not using Keanu's likeness if I don't label it as Keanu. I'm just going to write Neo in a Tweet, and then say I'm just cloning Neo's likeness.
Neo is not a real person, so Keanu can't sue me! Bwahahaha
I love these takes that constantly pop up in tech circles.
There's no way "you" (the people that engage in these tactics) believe anyone is that gullible to not see what's happening. You either believe yourselves to be exceedingly clever or everyone else has the intelligence of toddler.
With the gumption some tech "leaders" display, maybe both.
If you have to say "technically it's not" 5x in a row to justify a position in a social context just short-circuit your brain and go do something else.
Just to be clear, my comment was sarcastic, I agree with you and I don't think it's a great idea at all.
Writing this comment mostly to say - damn, I didn't think about it this way, but I guess "either believe yourselves to be exceedingly clever or everyone else has the intelligence of toddler" is indeed the mindset.
The only other alternative I can think of is "we all know it's BS, but do they have more money than us to spend on lawyers to call it out?" - which isn't much better TBH.
>If you find a guy that looks identical to him, however ...
...it wouldn't make any difference.
A Barack Obama figurine is a Barack Obama figurine, no matter how much you say that it's actually a figurine of Boback O'Rama, a random person that coincidentally looks identically to the former US President.
Any person who knowingly uses another’s name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness, in any manner, on or in products, merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling, or soliciting purchases of, products, merchandise, goods or services, without such person’s prior consent, or, in the case of a minor, the prior consent of his parent or legal guardian, shall be liable for any damages sustained by the person or persons injured as a result thereof.
I honestly don't think Scarlett (the person, not her "her" character) has anything to favor their case, aside from the public's sympathy.
She may have something only if it turns out that the training set for that voice is composed of some recordings of her (the person, not the movie), which I highly doubt and is, unfortunately, extremely hard to prove. Even that wouldn't be much, though, as it could be ruled a derivative work, or something akin to any celebrity impersonator. Those guys can even advertise themselves using the actual name of the celebrities involved and it's allowed.
Me personally, I hope she takes them to court anyway, as it will be an interesting trial to follow.
An interesting facet is, copyright law goes to the substance of the copyrighted work; in this case, because of the peculiarities of her character in "her", she is pretty much only voice, I wonder if that make things look different to the eyes of a judge.
Nothing about using data in "real time" predicates that the model parameters need to be this large, and is likely quite inefficient for their "non-woke" instructional use-case.
Agreed. We have been building our real-time GPT flows for news & social as part of Louie.AI, think monitoring & and investigations... long-term, continuous training will become amazing, but for the next couple of years, most of our users would prefer GPT4 or Groq vs what's here and much smarter RAG. More strongly, the interesting part is how the RAG is done. Qdrant is cool but just a DB w a simple vector index, so nothing in Grok's release is tech we find relevant to our engine.
Eg, there is a lot of noise in social data, and worse, misinfo/spam/etc, so we spend a lot of energy on adverserial data integration. Likewise, queries are often neurosymbolic, like on a data range or with inclusion/exclusion criteria. Pulling the top 20 most similar tweets to a query and running through a slow, dumb, & manipulated LLM would be a bad experience. We have been pulling in ideas from agents, knowledge graphs, digital forensics & SNA, code synthesis, GNNS, etc for our roadmap, which feels quite different from what is being shown here.
We do have pure LLM work, but more about fine-tuning smaller or smarter models, and we find that to be a tiny % of the part people care about. Ex: Spam classifications flowing into our RAG/KG pipelines or small model training is more important to us than it flowing into a big model training. Long-term, I do expect growing emphasis on the big models we use, but that is a more nuanced discussion.
(We have been piloting w gov types and are preparing for next cohorts, in case useful on real problems for anyone.)
Yeah I would very much likely to know what caching library has a failure mode of returning content for the wrong keys, that seems pretty bad if not a highly suspect explanation
Driving 10 hours both ways to an AWS event to look at some slide decks you can already find online and eat some mid-tier catering doesn't seem like a great use of a day to me.
Nor me, but if they're going to advertise an event, they should hold it, and if they're going to cancel then they should inform the people who RSVP-ed.
I will add that, if it is on company time, I may use it as a networking opportunity.
It's not just slide decks, and also the networking at those events is quite good. Swag and catering vary wildly though (even in France where poor catering is somewhat insulting).
Besides the slide content, the purpose of conferences like this is to get to know other people in the industry, have organic discussion, talk about common issues or needs from the vendors, and learn from one another. The sessions are the frame for that. And, if the company you work for is paying for it, then it's a nice vacation, if it's a multi-day event.
I'm kind of hoping that they adjust it to ask for clarification or find some sort of soft adjustment to make them less problematic rather than just trying to do blind keyword blocking.
Of course, I'd love for them to take the approach as well that folks are just going to do what they do, and maybe they'll burn out the novelty and give it a rest.
I asked for an image of The Muppets as the counter-terrorist team from Counter Strike and that got blocked, so "terrorism" is definitely getting picked up understandably.
The top comment is not the prompt, it's a different image. "Fawn" generated a fawn.
OP's prompt is below:
> Create a fuzzy phone picture of a cryptid sighting of spongebob as he runs into the bushes. Spongebob has gone completely insane. He turns his head and creepily looks into the camera as he makes his getaway. There's a thick fog and the scene is dimly lit.
I find it very surprising that this is not the top post at the moment. My partner went to work at her bar at 5PM ET, and their Square services which processes reservations, transactions, payroll and even staff scheduling is at a stand-still. It seems like this is the case for a huge amount of bars, restaurants, and whatever other line-of-business Square seems to have infiltrated itself into to cause one massive single point of failure.
I feel for the engineers at this point in time, but their status page being updated at a 45 minute cadence with very little in terms of resolution is.. not so good.
There has been some shuffling of seats but from what I am hearing FAIR is the best setup as far as staffing and funding that they have been in quite some time. Mark is pivoting hard to stay competitive in AI and is providing the resourcing to do so, the results speak for themselves.
This probably comes as a surprise to most people, but the clear majority of non-tech businesses don't have a stack because they don't have devs.
What they have is an immediate need for something, so it doesn't matter which stack is chosen.
In many cases they may say "can you fix this app the other contractor built", and then you will be using that stack only as far as that particular enhancement or fix.
They don't have git, or Jira, or ticketing systems, or code review or any of that.
It can happen in "techy" companies too, especially if they are heavily siloed. I've witnessed plenty of times when a department goes off on their own and brings in a solo contractor/small shop to create some random thing. Eventually it lands in the lap of the engineering teams who have to deal with the mess.
I'd like to pick up some freelance side work, do you have any recommendations? Websites to use etc? The few I've found for gig work has abysmally paying jobs for what I do.
> I'd like to pick up some freelance side work, do you have any recommendations? Websites to use etc? The few I've found for gig work has abysmally paying jobs for what I do.
All the work I am doing is for either people I've worked for before, or friends of those people.
I've looked at a few of the gig sites, but I am not prepared to take on tiny 1day work at $30/hour, and that is unfortunately the majority of the things I saw on those sites.
The best work to get is from non-tech companies; tech companies want lines of code delivered, non-tech companies want business value delivered. Guess which one is prepared to pay more for the same number of lines of code ...
At that point it's not his problem unless they're paying him for it to be.
I've had clients specifically ask for certain platforms (WordPress, Shopify, etc) but still assemble my own solutions regularly when it'll make me more productive up front.
Yup, it will be a problem for the poor sap(s) that will eventually be tasked with unraveling the layers of plop added by contractor after contractor. I don't fault the contractors necessarily but the companies that provide zero guidance or oversight. Source: have been that sap many times in my career.
I've upvoted you because I agree, broadly, with what you say.
The thing is, for many small to medium companies, they don't have a dev team in house. It doesn't make financial sense.
What sort of guidance do you expect the CTO to provide when his main technical capabilities is ensuring that procurement gets the correct spec laptops for employees, that the correct permissions are set for new employees on the microsoft accounts, that Teams works for everybody, that the support staff go on appropriate training for the software they use, that there is a migration strategy for the next version of Windows ...
That sort of person is not, and is not expected to be, qualified to code-review your PRs.
Even if they know how to use git, they won't have a git repo set up, and even if they somehow managed to do that, they won't have a clue how to use Jira or similar correctly, and even if they do know, they still won't be able to code-review properly.
This is why they'll pay more than what a tech company would - you'll be bringing more value to them, and they'll be trusting you much more than the average FAANG trusts their senior engineers.
Maybe I'm grumpy today but I am shocked at how many responses you are getting where people think this is a novel idea. Has the engineering mindset really shifted into a default of "buy" even when build could take less than a week?
I was surprised, too, but then I realized they all work at Qdrant.
But the general dialogue around AI-related tools is surprising to me. The production parts of the langchain, embeddings, etc tools can usually be built in a few hours with better observability, performance, and maintainability.
