HN is a terrible place for "any useful dialogue" on this subject to begin with, so in this instance I'm more interested in calling a spade a spade than laying out my thinking for other folks to "Well, actually..." me.
All due respect, but if that's really what you believe then why contribute at all? One liner comments with loaded terms serve only to start flame wars which just result in everyone solidifying their existing opinions and being less open minded in the future.