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Washington is a conceal carry friendly state, I wonder how reporting an attempt at a citizens arrest would have changed the situation.

Here in Santa Cruz we have a very high property/lifestyle crime problem, thankfully the PD haven't given up, but the courts have made things here basically catch and release.

The story basically comes down to laziness on the part of the police. Seattle doesn't have the budget problems of Oakland where this same situation has basically been going on for a decade.




>Washington is a conceal carry friendly state, I wonder how reporting an attempt at a citizens arrest would have changed the situation.

This is a terrible idea. I'm about as pro 2nd amendment as you can get, but when you carry a concealed weapon your goal should always be to avoid a confrontation, not seek one out.

Getting your back iPhone isn't a life or death situation and you shouldn't use a firearm to resolve it. Also it's very likely you're going to jail if you shoot a guy while trying to make a citizens arrest.


> Washington is a conceal carry friendly state, I wonder how reporting an attempt at a citizens arrest would have changed the situation.

I'm a big believer in the Second Amendment. It's not about duck hunting. And in an ideal world what you suggest would be OK.

HOWEVER, we don't live in an ideal world. So IMO concealed carry is now about personal protection and not about retrieving stolen iPhones.


"It's not about duck hunting"

Yeah, it's about suppressing slave revolts.


It's about a lot of things, not just slave revolts. E.g. the whiskey rebellion:[1]

   [President] Washington responded by sending peace
   commissioners ... while at the same time calling on
   governors to send a militia force to enforce the tax.
   With 13,000 militia provided ...  Washington rode at
   the head of an army to suppress the insurgency
And also to help protect individual rights against an overbearing government. Of course now that we've been providing every small town sheriff with APCs and military weapons, that deterrent effect might no longer be as relevant as it once was.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion


I think you misunderstand the intent and extent of "citizens arrest." Trying to retrieve property by force looks a lot like armed robbery.

An individuals CPL status is nearly orthogonal to any armed confrontation. The police will arrest of you brandishing a weapon, CPL or not. Conversely if you use a firearm for self defense a CPL is irrelevant to the appropriate use of force. And in any offensive use of a weapon you will go to jail. Just the other week a homeless man down the street was arrested as he continued to shoot at two criminals after they were no longer a threat: http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2014/10/18/police-arrest-man-f...




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