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So...presumably either Smith is mistaken and/or lying, or the device is defective.

But the manufacturer, of course, could neither be lying nor could have produced a device that didn't perfectly represent this notional design.

This entire thread is full of people who have no idea how the device actually works or what actually happened jumping to the conclusion that the female poor person is lying or doesn't understand what happened with her own car that she was driving at the time. It is, of course, possible. But it's also classic Hacker News.




The company can not lie in this case because it would be trivial to expose the lie by studying any device in the field. I think its more reasonable that she is blaming the device because she was in a scary situation and the device is the best cause given her information. I think it's safer to assume no one has hidden motives here.


The article doesn't provide enough information to know specifically how the devices really work, but people blaming mechanical systems for driver error is nothing new (see Audi and Toyota unintended acceleration cases).


So I say:

> ...it's exceedingly unlikely that the device did so while operating according to design. (Or Passtime is about to get one humongous fine and/or judgement...)

In other words, I'm saying that it might be defective, but it's unlikely (albeit possible) that the company is lying, due to the massive liability this would incur. And your response is to suggest that I'm saying it's literally impossible for it to be defective or for the company to be lying?

In short: You replied to someone suggesting that the device might not be operating according to design by complaining that nobody is suggesting this. I don't believe you are discussing this in good faith.




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