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I remember thinking my 966MHz Coppermine was blazing fast.

Then, a few years later I tried to install Gentoo on it. With X. And OpenOffice.

It chugged for days.




I still have an old ThinkPad with a 500MHz Pentium III and 128Mb of RAM in it. It has FreeBSD on it (4.4).

It still feels really fast if you don't use X.


That's awesome.

I lost that poor little machine when I moved across the country; not sure where it could have ended up. Now my only "system to screw around with" is my RasPi.


The first PC I had with X installed was a 486SX/25MHz with 20 MB of RAM. On the rare occasion that I "needed" to use X, I would start it, do whatever I needed to, kill X, and return to the console.

I still spend most of my time in a terminal window, but it's on a machine with ~1120x as much CPU horsepower and ~1638x as much RAM. Just calculating that made me go "wow" and realize how far we've come in the last 20 years or so.


I remember doing some intro comp.sci homework on a hand-me-down Pentium 2 laptop. It sort of managed to run X11 (in 8bit greyscale!) -- but the jdk took literally 5 minutes to start up (compilation time was effectively bounded by the star-up time: It took 5 minutes until I had my .class files, or my list of syntax errors...).


I did a similar thing. My P2-233 (at the time this was the top end) blew a PSU and I did my engineering writeup on a P66 (pulled from a campus skip) with 32Mb of RAM using heirloom nroff, eqn, pic and vi on FreeBSD because it was all I had access to and you couldn't compile TeX on that box in a week. I have a lot of respect for the troff family of tools and still use them now.

Cost of software and hardware for that was £0!


I wonder if gcj might have been faster for compiling your homework?


Interesting question. I think the problem was the 4(or 8?) MBs of ram, and javac swapping out while loading. I can't recall that I did any compiling with gcc on that laptop -- at the time gcj certainly wasn't mature enough. I don't think I tried with jikes either, for some reason -- can't remember why now.


Come to think of it, it might have been a 486, not a p 2.


You compiled it? Why? Why not compile on a different architecture thats faster or use distcc to make a compile farm? Last times I used Gentoo I just used the packages, took no longer to install than an rpm based distribution.


>You compiled it? Why?

Learning exercise

>Why not compile on a different architecture thats faster or use distcc to make a compile farm? Last times I used Gentoo I just used the packages, took no longer to install than an rpm based distribution.

Well this was 10 years ago. I was 17 or so and I didn't know about distcc. I was young, dewy-eyed, and a huge noob.


Back when I was touring colleges, building Gentoo from Stage 1 seemed to be all the rage. I tried on a PIII also. Then the power went out after a day and I never tried it again after. While maybe it would have been a good experience, ultimately I don't think I missed out on all that much.




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