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My Meeting with Pax Dickinson (dashes.com)
16 points by kmfrk on Sept 14, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments



Let's see, we should have:

* A few folks wrongly arguing this is about free speech even though it's not an issue of government limiting speech * Guys saying this is trying to silence someone, without ever reflecting on whether Pax's actions silenced others * People blaming me for his getting fired, even though I know his CEO and did not call him about this * Dudes who will say "all that matters is if he knows the tech" as if being an executive doesn't also require effective communication skills, empathy, and the ability to create a welcoming and supportive workplace. * A few who will go off and continue the effort to dox me instead of the PUA jerks who keep sending me death threats and attacking me & my family * A silent majority who find this guy and this kind of behavior reprehensible but somehow don't always feel obligated to speak up.

But I am optimistic; the many good people here can change these parts of startup culture. We can make it welcoming, even to those with strong accents or who those might get pregnant.


I'm very surprised that he actually decided to meet with you. In my experience, troglodytes like Pax Dickinson are usually too cowardly to show up after saying things like "oh yeah? you wanna say that to my face?!"


i don't think it helps to start calling people you don't agree with cave men.


This thread will mysteriously disappear soon enough: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6381482.


Thank you! You are making the community a better place.

I am sorry you are getting death threats for standing up for us. That's horrible :(


Pax's actions silenced others -- are you referring to his tweets or did he do something else?


citation?


That's what I was asking for..


I really think this kind of drama is off-topic for Hacker News. There are too many posts about twitter celebrities getting angry at each other and then trying to involve the rest of the world in their stupid fights. I mean the 120 char limit basically makes it certain you will be misunderstood, taken out of context and that the only way to get attention is to post extreme soundbites.

Sorry to single this submission out. I just want less "blogosphere news" on HN and more technology articles.


It is all rather dramatic, but it serves a purpose. For someone who doesn't share the same views as Pax and his ilk, it's easy to let these issues slip from our field of view. Unfortunately, they're still a very real problem, and anyone developing their worldview in start-up culture needs to know that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.

I still up-voted you, because the while mess still reeks of high-drama internet gossip. I wish we didn't have to endure it, but sometimes it's a necessary evil.


"If you're a venture capitalist, and you invest in Pax's startup without a profound, meaningful and years-long demonstration of responsibility from Pax beforehand, you're complicit in extending the tech industry's awful track record of exclusion, and it's unacceptable."

Yes, because what we need more of in our community is blacklisting--even for a good cause, this is inexcusable.


No, clearly what we need is more funding of guys who unabashedly say they won't try to hire women. Because that's a great world to live in.


he never said that...can we try citing actual quotes when making these kind of accusations?


Why would you want such a thing?

Fact-based accusations? That doesn't work well with the thought police.

The funny thing is, you go take a look on what this guy wrote in the past and there's stuff like

"There's a related question here which no one is asking, which is whether the economic catastrophe facing the global marketplace is a result of a failure of white culture in America."[1]

Seriously? Is this any different from saying that famine in Africa a result of a failure of black culture (whatever that is)?

Is this a "guru"? Guru of what? At least the so-called "asshole" can actually build something useful, instead of just thought-policing without looking in the mirror...

[1] http://dashes.com/anil/2009/01/monoculture-is-bad-for-busine...




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