> Did you grow .NET into the most widely adopted application development platfor...

roel_v · on Aug 23, 2013

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm? Are you seriously suggesting those two are even of the same magnitude?

parasubvert · on Aug 24, 2013

There have been 1.5 billion iOS and Android devices activated worldwide.

There are 1.5 billion PCs world wide.

Are all of them running .NET?

gnaritas · on Aug 23, 2013

iOS and Android are largely for consumer devices, .Net is largely used in the enterprise for B2B products that consumers never see. .Net and Java dominate the enterprise market. Apples and oranges.

CamperBob2 · on Aug 23, 2013

iOS and Android are largely for consumer devices

Gee, when have we heard this before. Oh, yes: when the iPhone was released.

gnaritas · on Aug 23, 2013

What does that have to do with anything? The iPhone is still a consumer device as well. The enterprise isn't about mobile anything, it's about internal applications and B2B systems integration and .Net and Java rule the roost here, as does SOAP still. What works on the public net and what works in the enterprise are light years apart and probably always will be.

parasubvert · on Aug 25, 2013

The enterprise is desperately, rapidly re-building all of those internal applications (at least the client-side) on mobile platforms, and iOS is in the lead.

This is why these "mobility" servers like IBM WorkLight or SAP/Sybase Unwired are hot products.

CamperBob2 · on Aug 23, 2013

You're not from RIM, by any chance, are you?

gnaritas · on Aug 23, 2013

Not at all, and the iPhone kicked the blackberries ass, but that has shit to do with enterprise space. All business != enterprise space. Enterprise != mobile. Mobile created a new space, apples and oranges.

Roboprog · on Aug 24, 2013

Our sales guys at $COMP all have iPhones and iPads. They don't like to use their laptops.

Blackberry's are going away, we have remote email via iOS, and its only a matter of time before other people get the gear sales has.

asdfs · on Aug 23, 2013

Elaborate? I don't understand what you're suggesting.

calbear81 · on Aug 23, 2013

He's referring to the fact that Ballmer dismissed the iPhone when it first came out as an expensive toy that only consumers would care about. As everyone has seen now, "enterprise" phones like Blackberry are dead in the water and workplaces are adapting to supporting iOS and Android devices instead.