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don't forget guys, remember to pack your colour-saturation-level-adjusting glasses. travel abroad isn't the same without them.

more seriously, having travelled much, and now living "abroad" i think it's way over-rated. people are fundamentally the same. the ways in which societies differ are in the rituals people are accustomed to - and dealing with that gets old quickly.




Interesting, as from my perspective the difference in rituals is one of the most fascinating things about travel, particularly when it's cultures that are far removed from your own.

Two summers ago I participated in the Mongol Rally (http://www.theadventurists.com/the-adventures/mongol-rally). Getting to connect and hang out with locals along the way (particularly in Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Siberia, Mongolia, etc) was one of the highlights of the trip.

In addition, the fact people are "fundamentally the same" is actually something I derive a lot of pleasure from, given it continues to reinforce the base "good" that we all have in us (despite what the MSM might otherwise tell us).


It may differ for you, as an experienced traveler. For someone who hasn't gotten out of the country, ever, it could be a highly instructive experience. Both in terms of mutual understanding with the wider world, and in terms of independence and experience. Traveling by oneself forces one to become more independent, more confident in navigating difficulties without a large support network. I think it's an extremely beneficial experience.


i guess it's difficult for me to know about other people. i was wondering if it's a difference between europeans and americans (since for europeans, "abroad" is much closer). but isn't america a varied place with different cultures in different states?

maybe another way of making my point is that the kind of people whose mind is most likely to be be broadened by travel are already aware of the kind of issues you might think they would learn. while those so closed they don't get it, won't - travel or not... your argument only seems (to me) to apply to the lucky few who are closed-minded at home, but open-minded enough to suddenly change when the food is different or the people don't react the way they're used to.


There are a lot of different cultures in the U.S., but I think the biggest differences aren't the regional ones, and imo hard to get a feel for just by traveling. The lives and cultures of people living in rural areas vs. urban areas, wealthy vs. poor areas, nearly-100%-white vs. nearly-100%-black areas, etc., etc. are all very different, but they aren't primarily state-to-state variations. For example, I found living in Houston and Chicago to be not that different: I lived in a middle-class suburban area in both, and their culture was more "middle-class suburban American" culture than any kind of distinctively Midwestern or Texan culture. I think there's some of that in cities, too: SF and Portland and parts of Manhattan have more in common with each other than with some places that are geographically much closer to them.

Living in a different one of those cultures can be very educational, but it's somewhat hard to break into unless you have some organic reason to be there or social connection. People are often resentful of "lifestyle tourism", the stereotypical one being an upper-middle-class white kid who moves to a poor minority neighborhood as a cultural experience. Small rural communities can also be quite closed as well, in terms of being able to really join the culture (vs. just visit the town).


America's culture does differ from place to place, but it's all under the same umbrella, and has only been growing for a few hundred years. It lacks the long span of history and conflict that a lot of the rest of the world has.

I think that experience is the best teacher. Whether or not you think you understand issues, or think you are experienced enough to deal with certain situations, you don't know that until you are put in those situations or confronted with those issues.

I also think it's a mistake to say that people are binary "close minded at home" and "open minded" outside. People have a range of experiences and impressions that colors every interaction they have.




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