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The "system's image" is important because the end to all patents or IP would be absolutely devastating to the U.S. economy, killing way more jobs than patent trolls do. The public needs to trust the patent system.



Citation needed; eliminating patents in general or software patents in particular would hurt some companies (notably patent trolls and other companies who make most of their money on patent licensing) and help others (notably those who regularly get sued by those companies, and those who spend time and money writing and filing patents and creating cross-licensing arrangements for defensive purposes).

The question of which of those will have a larger impact on the economy, and for that matter which behavior we would prefer to see encouraged, remains open and does not have a well-known or accepted answer as you've implied.


In your example, companies who get sued over patents today, would instead just see their products copied wholesale and sold for much lower prices, since the copying companies have no investment to recoup. Without the possibility of recouping investment, new product development would slow, stifling innovation across the economy. Which in turn would harm companies that exist solely to copy other products, since there would be fewer new products to copy.


> In your example, companies who get sued over patents today, would instead just see their products copied wholesale and sold for much lower prices

I think you mean "companies who sue over patents", not "companies who get sued over patents"; the latter are not the ones looking to prevent copying.

I'd also point out that that issue doesn't apply to software patents, since copyright already handles that issue quite effectively for software.

> Without the possibility of recouping investment, new product development would slow

Standard patent rhetoric. The corresponding anti-patent rhetoric would be that without the issue of spurious patent lawsuits and workarounds, product development would accelerate. Both claims require evidence, not just assertion.

> Which in turn would harm companies that exist solely to copy other products

Because of course the world is divided solely into companies that love patents and companies that exist solely to copy other products.

There's a large ecosystem of innovative companies that treat patents as overhead and cost rather than value.


So any company that gets sued over a patent today doesn't care if its own products get copied? Really?


Just want to make a distinction within "patents or IP". Patents are at issue here, not copyrights or trademarks. Having said that, there are certain things I do trust the patent system for (mechanical things) and things I don't (software). This speaks to the patent examiners' lack of familiarity with the state of the art in logic and programming.


Thanks. I just meant that if we killed the concept of IP in general, patents would also die (as a subset).


That is a plausible statement except it contradicts pretty much any economic study done on the subject i.e. when economist look at this issue using historic data, they find that industries thrive at times of weak patent protection.

This is not actually surprising. A patent is a monopoly. A monopoly creates an environment where you can jack up the prices without improving the product you're selling and that's why americans pay much more money for pathetic broadband speeds than majority of other countries, while cable companies are comfortably profitable. It's also why a day after Google introduces 1GB broadband in one area, Comcast or TWN suddenly announce that they also will provide such speeds in this area (but not anywhere else).

Monopoly is what devastating to economy. Patents are monopoly and they are devastating to economy.


What historical studies show is that freeloading works. Economies or companies who are capable and willing to violate IP protections can catch up to more established economies or companies by copying their innovations. It helped the U.S. catch and pass the European powers, and it is helping China catch the U.S. today.

But once you max out the return from copying existing innovations, the only way to keep growing is to generate your own innovation. Then you want to protect those innovations. So the U.S., now one of the most innovative economies in the world, has strong IP laws and fights to protect them.

It's true: killing patents would most likely cause an immediate economic burst in the U.S. It would basically be a reduction in cost for many companies, who would realize a benefit in increased profits.

But over time, without patents, there would be reduced incentive to invest in capital-intensive innovations. That is why, despite the studies you cite, every major developed nation has strong protections for IP today. It is why major innovations like broadband, pharmaceuticals, electronics, software, etc. come out of nations with strong IP protections, not nations with weak IP protections


Yeah, just think of all the lawyers out of work. It's hard enough out there for the poor JDs already!




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