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What gives the government the right to 'take it away from them?'



They have the guns normally. Force tends to be its own right.

That said, Californians complaining about government isn't surprising, they have the worst possible state government of the union. Their bias is understandable, but entirely their own doing.


"Potentially, a government is the most dangerous threat to man's rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims."


Like everything Ayn Rand, that's completely upside down, since government is also the only entity that has ever succeeded in guaranteeing people's rights.

So government is the best friend of man's rights, while libertarianism is the biggest enemy. Libertarianism = corporate feudalism.


they have the worst possible state government of the union

Must be all the rich people that live here; they ruin everything!


I was referring more to their referendum system.


Which diminishes my point not a bit.


Well I wasn't exactly caring about the people behind the referendum, but true enough.


What is "property" other than a state-enforced claim to ownership? If the state (read: society) decides to take some back it is well within its "right" to do so, as your only claim to property is based on decree of society.


I'm guessing your not a big John Locke fan.


I am a fan actually, and I don't think my views are incompatible with his. I do have reservations of the typical use of "natural law" arguments though. One can construct a natural law argument for just about any premise one wants.


> I am a fan actually, and I don't think my views are incompatible with his.

I'm unable to reconcile your comment with what I understand to be John Lock's theory regarding property rights. They seem incompatible to me.


My recollection of his work is nothing but vague memories at this point, so there's a good chance I'm completely off in my assessment.


That would be the sixteenth amendment to The Constitution of the United States of America.




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