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I don't think you can directly compare Hitler and the Nazis with an amorphous terrorist organisation.

It was pretty easy to tell when Nazi Germany was defeated - formal surrender, Hitler shoots himself etc. How do you tell if AQ and its various offshoots have been defeated?

It is my hope that sometime in the future, when we finally go 5 or more years without an attack, some of these restrictions will be rolled back.




>How do you tell if AQ and its various offshoots have been defeated?

Well, how do you tell they exist at all? Because some government that's taking your rights claim they do. Yes, some actual terrorists did 911. And since then? Nothing. The only "evidence" we have of any activity at all are some clear entrapment cases by the FBI. If there really are active terrorists groups trying to attack the US why are the only cases we actually hear about clearly entrapment?


>Well, how do you tell they exist at all?

The videos of their figurehead? The word of various countries involved? The guys which have been caught red handed trying to pull off something? (Hardly "entrapment".. need I mention the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber? Both were AQ operatives)

Also, please learn what "entrapment" means. It doesn't mean what you think it means.. for absolute starters, entrapment is when you convince someone to commit a crime they otherwise would not have.


>The videos of their figurehead?

You mean the videos where he said he had nothing to do with 911? Or you mean the ones that were globally criticized for appearing doctored?

>need I mention the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber? Both were AQ operatives)

Haha! Exactly my point. The "shoe bomber" was a lunatic who worked with one other person and claimed to be working with AQ. I bet anyone who the CIA would actually classify as AQ never heard of this guy before his silly little stunt.

>Also, please learn what "entrapment" means.

I know very well what it means. Have you not been paying attention? The FBI has brought up two cases where they "caught" someone who was carrying out the FBI's plan with the FBI's materials and money after the FBI convinced them to do it. There is no reason to believe they would have done anything without the FBI's prodding.


> And since then? Nothing.

I think there are some Londoners who might contest that.


Nothing against the US by these supposed "haters of our freedom".


If the contention that an international organisation has been deconstructed, or never existed, it barely matters where a subsequent attack actually takes place.


Fort Hood Massacre?


A lone crazy person. This is the exact kind of "omg they're EVERYWHERE!" thinking that's turning the US into a police state.




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