But Apple is also the one locking Safari to the OS, IE style. Having to buy a new machine to get the latest and secure version of a browser is a pretty heavy requirement.

> hilariously probably Windows

That's probably true.

> 15 y/0

It's a matter of expectations, many laptops that old still work decently enough with a refreshed battery. Funnily enough win10 was released 15 ago, and one can still get support for it for at least another 3 years until 2028, even on the customer license.

W10 was released 10 years ago, not 15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history

Sorry, I just have pattern matched the 2015 release year instead of properly counting.

i mean there are also lots of browser options to be fair.

should they be locking safari to the OS, definitely not. but users can just go download another browser if they are actually concerned.

Will modern versions of those other browsers still work on an 8 year old OS, or has it been updated where it is no longer compatible? So much effort has been put into hardware rendering, and the mechanisms for the browser to interact with that hardware has changed within those OS versions. Forcing the user to download an older compatible version of the browser to work with the older OS is also tossing away potential security fixes.

i mean you're also throwing away security fixed running an OS that out of date, but the person doing this probably doesn't care about security anyway.

> That's like taking off all of the locks on your house, leaving the doors and windows open all while expecting your house to never have uninvited guests.

Depending on where you live (or what websites you visit) it's not unreasonable.

Attacks via ad networks mean that is likely limited more than people would expect.

That's a good point. I assumed they use an effective ad blocker.