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Walled gardens are not illegal under existing law. You have to change the law before walled gardens become illegal, as the EU did with the DSA.

Nintendo's various platforms, Microsoft's XBox, and Sony's PlayStation have been perfectly legal walled gardens for decades.

However, claiming to introduce an open platform and then using anticompetitive means to retain control of that "open" platform is plainly illegal under existing law, as Google found with Android and Microsoft found with Windows.



First of all, I don't think Google ever made such a "claim". Moreover, what you are suggesting is that it is okay to do something bad if you say it's bad, but not to do something slightly bad if you say it's good. That's absurd. What Apple is doing with iOS is objectively much worse than what Google is doing with Android, irrespective of any alleged "claims".


> First of all, I don't think Google ever made such a "claim".

They explicitly made the claim that Android was open on many occasions.

Remember when a major Android selling point was that Android was "open source" before they started moving all the updated versions of the developer APIs into the Play Store?

https://medium.com/@coopossum/how-open-source-is-android-8d1...


> What Apple is doing with iOS is objectively much worse than what Google is doing with Android, irrespective of any alleged "claims".

It’s objectively not despite what you claim.

Apple never promised you an alternative, you got exactly what you paid for. Google promised you an alternative and while you weren’t looking tried to strangle it in its crib.

You need to look past your fan bias.


Google didn't "promise" anything.

> You need to look past your fan bias.

That's funny, considering that you are arguing that Android is worse than iOS, despite iOS being far more anti-competitive.


Google didn't just claim that Android was open, they claimed that it was open source.

Then they used anticompetitive tactics against companies attempting to take advantage of that supposed openness to retain tight control.

They have been found guilty of doing this many times in many jurisdictions.

Meanwhile, Microsoft's XBox walled garden ecosystem remains perfectly legal.

This is because walled gardens are not illegal. Anticompetitive conduct in open markets is.

If you want walled gardens to be illegal, you have to do what the EU did and change the law.


Do you have reading issues? Because that’s not what I argued at all. I argued you can’t say one thing and then do another and it seems the courts agree.


Do you have reading issues? Because I said Google didn't "promise" anything.


You could have just said “yes, yes I do.”

You like Google, we get it.




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