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AFAIK Nitrokey sells Pixel phones with GrapheneOS preinstalled worldwide.


It's not a matter of just purchasing. I can very well import from Amazon or AliExpress. Problem is support post sale and finding accessories like screen covers and cases. It's a lot of hassle for a device less feature-packed than you regular Samsung phones.


>accessories like screen covers and cases

Why would those be region locked there are hundreds of 3rd part accessories that sell world wide regardless of phone model especially for a device as popular as pixels.

>device less feature-packed than you regular Samsung phones.

What feature? GOS offers the most secure and private phone feature [1] while Samsung can only offer buggy pre installed ad and spyware...

[1] https://grapheneos.org/features


> Why would those be region locked

They don't need to be. In Brazil we don't have Pixel phones whatsoever in the market, so cases and screen protectors are just unavailable as well. Why would stores have wares that people won't buy? I'd have to stock a supply for the lifetime of the device.

> What feature?

Google services

> Samsung can only offer buggy pre installed ad and spyware

The only app I use is the camera and gallery app and they are fine. Do you have any references for the spyware claim?

A software whose focus isn't privacy isn't necessarily spyware. This is a false dichotomy.


>> What feature? > Google services

You can have sandboxed Google services on GOS in 10 minutes. Almost everything except for NFC payments works.

>> Samsung can only offer [...] > The only app I use is the camera and gallery app and they are fine

You literally said you need Google services. You don't need this for camera and gallery app? Anyway, GOS also has camera and gallery (the latter is pretty....barebones to say it mildly), and also allows use, for example, of ProShot, which may offer better results than the default camera. Or Pixel Camera :)

Other than that your rationale for not getting Pixel is completely fair. Let's hope 2026 will bring support (= secure hardware) from other OEMs.


Its Because I'm terrible at expressing myself sometimes...

What I'm trying to say is that not having Google services is a pain, but if getting a phone for grapheneOS was easy I'd be fine with that pain. But if on top of the inconvenience of not having Google services I'd also not have tech assistance and easy access to parts it's not worth it anymore if it's "just" for privacy reasons.

Here in Brazil it's mostly Xiaomi, Samsung, Asus and Motorola. And Apple, but it's a different story with iPhones.


Oh, I understand now. My fault.

Yeah, I completely understand in that case.


>Why would stores have wares that people won't buy?

Because online shops and across border shipping exists.

>Google services

As other people pointed out and 5 second of research shows they exist and they are even securely sandboxed unlike any other android os.

>Do you have any references for the spyware claim

You really asking if android OEMS are spying? Whats next asking if windows does it too?

https://www.computerworld.com/article/1671913/samsung-sellin...

https://www.sammobile.com/opinion/why-is-everyone-freaking-o...

https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-pay-new-privacy-polic...

I don't understand how anybody could question this when they literally install data harvesting apps like tiktok on there devices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPipXaaN7hg

>A software whose focus isn't privacy isn't necessarily spyware. This is a false dichotomy.

Never claimed that but any superficial research would show how data harvesting and invasive any stock android os (proprietary for profit software in generally really) are.




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