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12k a year?!? That is a staggering number. I wonder what the stats were in East Germany (though they may have had harsher punishments.. that can be ratcheted up later though once the system is in place)


It's mostly far-right shit-stirring because it's a much broader set of crimes than you are being led to believe. It's basically every possible crime "by communication":

"A spokeswoman for Leicestershire police said crimes under Section 127 and Section 1 include “any form of communication” such as phone calls, letters, emails and hoax calls to emergency services."

I expect it's mostly domestic abuse cases because what was once screamed through a closed door is now messaged online.

When a family member starts threatening others, an arrest is probably the necessary intervention to prevent actual violence. It's a similar story in cases like e.g. community racial tensions and gang violence. Once the threats are happening online, real violence is imminent and action warranted.


Per gpt: Estimates vary, but roughly 250,000–300,000 people were imprisoned for political reasons over the GDR’s 41-year existence—an average of ~6,000–7,000 annually.

Just wow. I wonder if we will study this in history textbooks about downfall of UK


As a resident of the UK I can safely say, no we will not, as we are categorically not arresting 12K people a year for simply posting things online.

I would be more likely to include some sections about the current US administration though.


To ask His Majesty’s Government what estimate they have made of the number of people arrested daily for non-threatening, online communication offences, and what assessment they have made of the implications of such arrests for freedom of speech.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2025-07-17/debates/F807C...


The population of East Germany in 1990 was 16 million, while the population of the UK today is over 4 times larger at 68 million.

(I still don't think the UK should jail people for being hateful online, though.)


It depends what you count as political reasons. Plausible bullshit could be generated to support the idea that arrest for any particular crime is political, or just as easily, to oppose that idea.

I draw the bar for "political arrest" at somewhere like "arrested for opposing the incumbent in an election". I don't think "arrested for saying it's time to gas the muslims" - which is the sort of thing happening in the UK and getting counted in these numbers - should be called "political arrest". That's just called committing a crime. That would only become a "political arrest" if gassing the muslims was a politically acceptable viewpoint, equal in value to not gassing them.


East Germany fell in 1990 - I doubt there were even 12,000 people online in East Germany at that point in time.


Nobody was online. TLD .dd was registered but no domains registered. Two universities had a small intranet.


> 12k a year?!? That is a staggering number.

(i think OP might be speedrunning a "what opinions, mfer?" goose meme thing. i bet the reason is "for posting right-wing nationalistic garbage likely to incite hatred", or similar)


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> as far as I understand

If you're going to post about something so contentious, then bring receipts. We've all got things we vaguely remember that confirm our prejudices. But posting them without fact-checking oneself is crossing a line on topics like this.




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