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>> It's that they believe they have a religious duty to destroy the state of Israel.

> And the US is full of Christo-fascists who believe they have a religious duty to "defend" Israel by any means necessary.

How do you even begin to equivocate this? One wants to destroy a country, one wants to protect it from destruction.

> How do you think Palestinians sleep at night? With the threat of Israel, funded by the largest military in the world, looming over them every night?

Israel has never actually wanted to end the lives of every Palestinian - and they've had ample capacity to do. The reverse can't be said to be true. If there's a button that the Iraqi or Palestinian leadership that can press that would wipe out the state of Israel and everyone in it, do you think that they won't press it as fast as they can?



> Israel has never actually wanted to end the lives of every Palestinian

They clearly and openly state that they want to force Palestinians off of their land and are using violence towards that end.

If there were a button to get rid of Palestinians, Israelis would “hit it twice”.

https://youtu.be/BkP78hyLl4w


That is two random youtubers.

You know better than to listen to rants on line... I hope!


I posted that because it was illustrative and the podcasters used the same phrase, without any shame or compunction.

Here’s a survey conducted by Israeli researchers showing that vast majority (82%) of Israelis surveyed support forcibly expelling Palestinians.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-03/ty-article/.p...


Israelis are brutalized, by the actions of Hamas and at having no choice but to fight Hamas in horrible circumstances.

Hamas could have ended the war in Gaza a year ago. Or on October 8 2023.

Do they? No. They will fight to the last Gazan child.

Is it nice that Israelis see no alternative to Gazans being resettled elsewhere? No.

Do you have a path for Gazans to go back to the mid 1990's when 100+ Gazans came to Kibbutz Nir Oz for a peace festival?


> Israelis are brutalized, by the actions of Hamas and at having no choice but to fight Hamas in horrible circumstances.

No matter how many times I see it, the constant shifting goalposts and lack of self awareness will always startle me.


I am not saying it is good or desirable.

Do you live in a place that has a death cult committing daily acts of violence and killing (against people on both sides of the fence, of both "ethnicities")?

Do you live in a place where billions are spent on offensive weapons (tunnels, rockets) and stolen from donated food aid (as Hamas has been hijacking aid for many years and selling it at profit)?

If you do not, do you have any idea how a group of people (e.g. a society) responds to ongoing violence and threats of violence?

Your dismissive "constant shifting goalposts and lack of self awareness will always startle me" is the mark of someone who sits in an armchair and experiences no threat.

Beware of being dismissive. This region needs people who push for the hard work of peace and avoid labels and dismisiveness.

There was a peace movement in the 1990s. It accomplished a lot (a million+ Palestinians live under a Palestinian government in the West Bank and Gaza was left to its own devices in 2005).

A death cult (probably two) killed that process. By killing people (including the Israeli Prime Minister). Years earlier, that death cult killed Sadat for his peace making work.

Support those who push for peace.

Call out those who don't.


> Israel has never actually wanted to end the lives of every Palestinian

Uh? So can you explain the genocide?


Can you explain a genocide in Gaza or the West Bank both of which have growing Palestinian populations even during wartime?

(If you correct for the 100K+ who left Gaza before Egypt closed its border in 2024)


Inventing is explaining now? Ah…


Inventing what, exactly?

The population growth rate in the West Bank and Gaza is higher than that of Europe.

I ain't the one having the babies... The residents of those places are.


And what is the life expectancy?


What is the life expectancy of a body politic that chooses ongoing offensive war?

That is not a well thought out question. The answer is different in PA controlled areas, non PA areas, and Gaza.

And Gaza's life expectancy is different for members of Hamas vs. non members. And was one thing on October 6, 2023 and October 8, 2023.

Hamas has agency.

They could end the war a year ago or tomorrow.

Why don't they?


I don't think "getting invaded" counts as "choosing offensive war".


>I don't think "getting invaded" counts as "choosing offensive war".

Do you know what Hamas is?

Do you know their charter?

Do you know that they diverted billions of $, meant to build housing for Gazans to their own pockets and to a huge underground fortress under a civilian population?

Do you know that most Gazans support Hamas, and that Hamas has made many offensive wars against the civilians and armies of both Israel and Egypt? (Hamas killed dozens of Egyptian soldiers running wild in Egyptian Rafah in 2014... Know what Egypt did? Leveled hundreds of housing structures)

Hamas has been in a state of war since the day they took power in Gaza.

Hamas has murdered hundreds of Palestinians, including many who worked for peace.

What do you want to see?

More violence and blood?

Or more peace?

Promote what you want to see.

(Digging out the 100's of miles of offensive tunnels in Gaza is slow slow work. Hamas could end the war any time, but they will never surrender. They will fight to the last Gazan child. Do you want that?)


Is palestine territory occupied or not? You wrote a novel to evade a simple fact.


It is a hasbara account, no point in talking with it.




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