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> Yea, why don't we let the most destabilizing state sponsor of terrorism obtain a nuke? Surely that's only in Israel's interest...

Well, the Democrats had a very good plan to deal with this: diplomacy. They agreed a deal where Iran agreed not to build nuclear weapons, and in exchange they removed sanctions on Iran. A win-win scenario for everyone (except Bibi). Trump then - completely inexplicably - decided that he could do better at negotiating a deal, ripped up Obama's one, and then decided to... plunge the Middle East into chaos.

> You know, none of this would have happened if Hamas didn't attack Israel on Oct 7. Iran should know. They paid for it.

Surely the man who decided it was a good idea to alllow Qatar to give Hamas lots of money is at least partially to blame? [1] Or perhaps the person who decided to advocate to the US government that they should sell weapons to Iran [2]

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q... [2]: https://www.ft.com/content/8d75baf6-6756-4d52-a412-bc90bbbde...



Nearly all of Iran's neighbors in the region except Jordan and Syria supported our withdrawal from the agreement. The only complaining was done by Iran, European nations and the UN.

Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the UAE, Egypt, etc all supported us.


I really don't understand why you think this makes this a good idea. Saudi Arabia also decided to launch an extremely ill-fated and brutal invasion of Yemen, which worked out terribly for them and for the Yeminis. I don't think they have good judgement on this.


Ah so merely our most important and powerful allies disagreed with the move?


The Middle East is not strongly in the sphere of influence that Europeans have yes.

I promise you that the boots on the ground of the rest of the nations listed by the other person here is far more important here than strongly worded letters by the aging bureaucracy that governs the EU.


> far more important here than strongly worded letters by the aging bureaucracy that governs the EU

Have you seen the bureaucracy currently running the US government? Makes the EU look pretty sane and well-rounded in comparison.


Not sure what you want as a response, you won't find a friend in me, and you certainly won't be able to convince me if this is your response.


all those countries are effectively US vassals. Most of them have US military bases on their soil. Of course they’re going to do exactly what the US wants


Not true.





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