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Nah, if you think you want to do it, do it, and I think a lot of people would benefit from a little peer pressure of having a half dose. It's all social stigma, all of the fear is from bullshit stories of turning into a glass of orange juice: that shit doesn't happen. Take a half hit of acid and you'll wish you took more. Every person I've I introduced it to has agreed. It's not that big of a deal. You aren't going to wreck your brain. It's not something that will ALTER YOUR LIFE PERMANENTLY!!! It's a drug and you'll be fuckin fine.

It very much IS set and setting and the powers that be really want to fuck up the set. Try it. You won't regret it.



My point is, even though there is no unsafe dose of LSD, bad trips are real and can totally lock yourself out of it psychologically.

My advice has to be very careful in order not to incentivise unprepared people who would otherwise have a great trip. We have to be responsible, even if it'll only gonna negatively affect a very small percentage of them. Applied philosophy of care 100%

Other than that, I totally agree.


I think the bad trips are good though, it's almost the point. Why are you feeling bad? It's usually because you're in a physical or mental place you don't want to be, yet, when sober, you think it is where you should be. The incongruity of the situation is the lesson and the point.

When I was in college, I tracked down some mushrooms, bought em, and ran away on my own to trip out. I found myself on a bench, next to a river surrounded by trash in a mixed industrial area. I saw cig butts and empty beer cans on the ground. Looked at my ripped jeans and thought "Am I trash? Why am I here?" It was a shitty feeling and I got really down. I realized that getting fucked up for its own sake was stupid, and it's about sharing time with others that's actually important, no matter what drug you're on. I started crying and felt horrible, but the next day, I had a new sense of worth and a new frame of reference for the world that has persisted for 20+ years. I'll always remember that shitty trip on that shitty bench.


Good for you. I was suicidal for 4 years after my LSD trips


I'm sorry that happened. I'm curious what was it that made you suicidal?

How did you come out it after those 4 years?

There seems to be quite the story around this one sentence and a very rough time. Though I think there are perhaps some learnings for other people as well if you're willing to share.


Childhood trauma that I didn’t know was affecting me. I thought I hard perfect set and setting

Lots of intense therapy, I still go 3 times a week

I had no suicidal feeling before the drug. I suppose one way to put it is that seeing into the void made me take suicide seriously as an option


> there is no unsafe dose of LSD

Other than being a psychedelic, LSD is a stimulant and vasoconstrictor, so while physically unsafe doses are quite high (yes I've read about 'thumb print' doses), it's probably not wise to say that there is no unsafe dose of LSD.

It is unlikely you'll ever come across that much LSD, but LD50 is estimated at about 100mg, which is about 500-1000 ordinary doses.


And the dude that discovered LSD took it in the order of miligrams and recovered fine.

What I'm saying is that it's not the same as insuline for instance. If anyone takes too much insuline it'll kill him, universally. It's not the same with LSD.

If LSD is dangerous then it's situational which sets it apart from other drugs.


I know a guy who had something of an LSD overdose. Went psychotic and fully changed his personality. Total space cadet after. Ended up attacking an old man in a parking lot that he thought was a demon some months later.


I think this is too dismissive of the transformative power of psychedelic drugs. They absolutely can alter your life permanently. They certainly altered mine. I think, in a positive way. But that power cuts both ways. I also know people who had harrowing, traumatic experiences and developed PTSD.

My advice to people who haven't tried it tends to be that if you're scared, you should abstain. Your presuppositions of what the experience will be, will in themselves shape the experience. If you expect a bad time, you're likely to get one.

There's also a group of people who are curious about using psychedelics to treat mental disorder. My advice to those people is to find a way to do it in a clinical setting. Psychedelics have enormous potential for effectively curing anxiety disorders, but it's not just a matter of taking the drugs. The experience must be guided by a psychologist who knows what the goal is. And then integrated and processed afterwards, also with expert help. Psychedelucs are not a treatment in and of themselves, more like an accelerant of psychotherapy. The therapy is still necessary, it's just that psychedelics allow you to do in a handful of sessions what could take years in a sober patient. As a case in point, I have a severe anxiety disorder myself, and my many self-initiated experiments with psychedelics haven't magically cured it. If combined with therapy, it might have. I'm still waiting for clinical practice to catch up, so I can have psychedelic therapy.


While most people are fine after taking psychedelics, some people experience lasting visuals after a trip: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_percep...

There are some interesting videos on YouTube from people experiencing this.


Are you referring specifically and exclusively to LSD? Or to hallucinogens in general?

A friend of my brother was doing shrooms with a couple other guys, had a bad trip and actually offed himself as part of the trip.

Please don't try to convince people that all of this is completely safe.


This is demonstrably false and dangerous to repeat.

Just because everyone in your sample size has been fine doesn't mean everyone will be or even that your group will continue to be. Contrary to simplistic thinking, the law does exist for a reason and these substances are also scheduled for reasons other than conspiracies around free thinking.

Please spend some time reading about drug induced psychosis and educate yourself of the risks.




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