Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Well, loss of engine power and gliding to a stop is not that a far fetched case. Why is there not a fuel dump button to prevent a whole trips worth of fuel going up in flames?



There is, but dumping takes time, and it’s not done over populated areas. It would be low on the pilots’ checklist in an emergency.


Yes and smaller airliners don't have it. As I understand it, it's for the widebodies because they often have a higher maximum takeoff weight than maximum landing weight. Meaning that if they just took off and need to return right away they have a big problem. Because they're too heavy to land.


They were only 600ft in the air, barely anything would have got out before they hit the ground and you'd have just set non-zero amount of innocent people on fire in all likelihood when the crash ignited the trail they'd left.

There is a dump fuel button if you're not in the middle of a populated city and you're far enough in the sky you've got a few minutes.


Most airplanes can dump fuel, but it's not an immediate thing, so not really applicable here (and obviously doing it over a city is to be avoided as well).

It's primarily needed for weight management in planes that can take off heavier than they can safely land. I.e. if the plane had enough control to abort the flight and return to the airport, then it might have been appropriate.


No. Most airliners CANNOT dump fuel. This capability is limited to long range wide bodies, like this 787. Neither the 737 nor the A320, which constitute the majority of commercial air traffic, can dump fuel. Fuel dumping is normally performed at an altitude where it should be able to evaporate before hitting the ground, and it takes a long time, maybe 15 minutes to get from full fuel to maximum landing weight. Using it would have made no difference to the outcome of the flight other than making a larger fire on the ground.


Didn't Sully dump fuel before landing in the Hudson, thereby increasing the buoyancy of the plane?


No, the Airbus A320 cannot dump fuel.


A more dispersed fire. The amount of fuel isn't changed by dumping.


No. I said a larger fire, and I meant it. The fuel on the aircraft is not the only thing feeding the post-crash fire. Dousing the entire flight path with an accelerant would have resulted in many many buildings being on fire, instead of just a few of them.


It's possible to dump fuel but you don't have time to dump enough in an emergency


because painting an entire neighborhood in flammable fluid isn't safe... if it doesn't catch fire it'll corrode everything it touches.

most planes can't dump fuel anymore. if it's a serious enough emergency you land overweight. If it's not then you fly long enough to burn it off and land below max landing weight.


> most planes can't dump fuel anymore. if it's a serious enough emergency you land overweight.

When fuel is dumped, it's at high altitude where it just evaporates.

Short haul jets can't do it, but their max takeoff weight is around their max landing weight, so it's fine. For long haul, it's not the same.


Are both opposing replies just wild speculation from two educated software engineers that don't actually know anything on the topic?


> most planes can't dump fuel anymore

This is true but irrelevant to this crash. Most commercial jets are smaller (A320, 737 etc) and can't dump fuel.

Long-haul jets like the 787 do have the capability.

https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/comme...


No one overestimates themselves in other knowledge domains quite like software engineers... with the possible exception of medical doctors.


If it’s HN, yes always.


This airplane was not at high altitude. It crashed right after taking off. It only ever climbed to a few hundred feet in the air.


Yes, I was refuting the generic "planes don't dump fuel" statement.


It wouldn't have been in this case, is the point people are making.


It won't corrode I don't think. It's just oil, it's not petrol like in small airplanes.




Consider applying for YC's Fall 2025 batch! Applications are open till Aug 4

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: