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It's the 2025 version of lmgtfy.


Nah, that’s different. Lmgtfy has nothing to do with experience, other than experience in googling. Lmgtfy applies to stuff that can expediently be googled.


In my experience, usually what people had done was take your question on a forum, go to lmgtfy, paste the exact words in and then link back to it. As if to say "See how easy that was? Why are you asking us when you could have just done that?"

Yes is true there could have been a skill issue. But it could also be true that the person just wanted input from people rather than Google. So that's why I drew the connection.


I largely agree with your description, and I think that’s different from the above case of explicitly asking for experience and then someone posing the question to an LLM. Also, when googling, you typically (used to) get information written down by people, from a much larger pool and better curated via page ranking, than whoever you are asking. So it’s not like you were getting better quality by not googling, typically.


That's why I said it's the 2025 version of that, given the new technology. I'm not saying it's the same thing. I guess I'm not being clear, sorry.


It’s not clear to me in what way it is a version of that, other than the response being different from what the asker wanted. The point of lmgtfy is to show that the asker could have legitimately and reasonably easily have found the answer by himself. You can argue that it is sometimes done on cases where googling actually wouldn’t provide the desired information, but that is far from the common case. This present version is substantially different from that. It is invariably true that an LLM response won’t give you the awareness and judgement of someone with experience in a certain topic.


Okay I see the confusion. We are coming from different perspectives.

There are three main reasons I can think of for asking the Internet a question in 2010:

1. You don't know how to ask Google / you are too lazy.

2. You don't trust Google.

3. You already tried Google and it doesn't have the answer or it's wrong.

Maybe there are more I can't think of. But let's say you have one of those three reasons, so you post a question to an Internet forum in the year 2010. Someone replies back with lmgtfy. There are three typical responses depending on which of the those reasons you had f or posting:

1. "Thanks"

2. "Thanks, but I don't trust those sources, so I reiterate my question."

3. "Thanks, but I tried that and the answer is wrong, so I reiterate my question."

Now it's the year 2025 and you post a question to an Internet forum because you either don't know how to ask ChatGPT, don't trust ChatGPT, or already tried it and it's giving nonsense. Someone replies back with an answer from ChatGPT. There are three typical responses depending on your reason for posting to the forum.

1. "Thanks"

2. "Thanks, but I don't trust those sources, so I reiterate my question."

3. "Thanks, but I tried that and the answer is wrong, so I reiterate my question."

So the reason I drew the parallel was because of the similarity of experiences between 2010 and now for someone who doesn't trust this new technology.


In my experience what happened was the top hit for the question was a topical forum, with a lmgtfy link as a response to the exact question I'm googling.


The whole point of paying a domain expert is so that you don't have to google shit all day.


That’s exactly how I feel




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