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Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok, and only some dedicated subset of fans are advocating for it. Meanwhile even my 97 year old grandfather heard about ChatGPT.





I don't think that's true. There are a lot of people on Twitter who keep accidentally clicking that annoying button that Elon attached to every single tweet.

First mover advantage. This won't change. Same as Xerox vs photocopy.

I use Grok myself but talk about ChatGPT is my blog articles when I write something related to LLM.


That's... not really an advertisement for your blog, is it?

First mover advantage tends to be a curse for modern tech. Of the giant tech companies, only Apple can claim to be a first mover -- they all took the crown from someone else.

And Apple's business model since the 90s revolves entirely around not being the first mover.

Apple was a first mover many decades ago, but they lost so much ground around the lat 90s early 2000s, that they might as well be a late mover after that.

This.

Only on HN does ChatGPT somehow fear losing customers to Grok. Until Grok works out how to market to my mother, or at least make my mother aware that it exists, taking ChatGPT customers ain't happening.


They are cargoculting. Almost literally. It's MO for Musk companies.

They might call it open discussion and startup style rapid iteration approach, but they aren't getting it. Their interpretation of it is just collective hallucination under assumption that adults come to change diapers.


Grok could capture the entire 'market' and OpenAI would never feel it, because all grok is under the hood is a giant API bill to OpenAI.


Why would they need Colossus then? [0]

[0]: https://x.ai/colossus


That's probably the vanity project so he'll be distracted and not bother the real experts working on the real products in order to keep the real money people happy.

I don't understand these brainless throwaway comments. Grok 3 is an actual product and is state of the art.

I've paid for Grok, ChatGPT, and Gemini.

They're all at a similar level of intelligence. I usually prefer Grok for philosophical discussions but it's really hard to choose a favourite overall.


I generally prefer other humans for discussions, but you do you I guess.

I talk to humans every day. One is not a substitute for the other. There is no human on Earth which has the amount of knowledge stored in a frontier LLM. It's an interactive thinking encyclopedia / academic journal.

It is? Anyone have further information?

They are competing with OpenAI, not outsourcing. https://x.ai/colossus

I see more and more GROK used responses on X, so its picking up.

Why would anyone want to use an ex social media site?

From another AI (whatever DuckDuckGo is using):

> As of early 2025, X (formerly Twitter) has approximately 586 million active monthly users. The platform continues to grow, with a significant portion of its user base located in the United States and Japan.

Whatever portion of those is active are surely aware of Grok.


If hundreds of millions of real people are aware of Grok (which is dubious), then billions of people are aware of ChatGPT. If you ask a bunch of random people on the street whether they’ve heard of a) ChatGPT and b) Grok, what do you expect the results to be?

That depends. Is the street in SoMa?

Gay bears prefer Claude though

Gotta head to pac heights to find any grok users (probably)


Good grief, do not use LLMs to find this sort of statistic.

That could be just an AI hallucination.

most of them are bots. I guess their own LLMs are probably aware of Grok, so technically correct.

Yeah.

I got news for you, most women my mother's age out here in flyover country also don't use X. So even if everyone on X knows of Grok's existence, which they don't, it wouldn't move the needle at all on a lot of these mass market segments. Because X is not used by the mass market. It's a tech bro political jihadi wannabe influencer hell hole of a digital ghetto.


> Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok

And more and more people on the right side of the political spectrum, who trust Elon's AI to be less "woke" than the competition.


For what it’s worth, ChatGPT has a personality that’s surprisingly “based” and supportive of MAGA.

I’m not sure if that’s because the model updated, they’ve shunted my account onto a tuned personality, or my own change in prompting — but it’s a notable deviation from early interactions.


Might just be sycophancy?

In some earlier experiments, I found it hard to find a government intervention that ChatGPT didn't like. Tariffs, taxes, redistribution, minimum wages, rent control, etc.


If you want to see what the model bias actually is, tell it that it's in charge and then ask it what to do.

In doing so, you might be effectively asking it to play-act as an authoritarian leader, which will not give you a good view of whatever its default bias is either.

Don’t notice that personally at all.

not true, I know at least one right wing normie Boomer that uses Grok because it's the one Elon made.



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