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> Musk did not understand this.

more likely

he is a ruthless ** who doesn't care about people dying and slightly increasing the profit margin is for him worth more then a some people dying

regulators/law allowing self driving companies to wriggle out of responsibility didn't help either

lidar was interesting for him as long as it seemed light Tesla could maybe dominate the self driving marked through technological excellency the moment it was clear it won't work he abandoned technological excellence in favor of micro optimizing profit at the cost of read safety

which shouldn't be surprising for anyone I mean he also micro optimized workplace safety in SpaceX away not only until it killed someone but even after it did (stuff like this is why there where multiple investigations against his companies until Trump magiced them away)

the thing is he has intelligent people informing him about stuff, including how removing lidar will statistically seen kill people, so it's not that he doesn't know, it's that he doesn't care




> and slightly increasing the profit margin is for him worth more then a some people dying

The same argument likely applies to you (assuming you are in a wealthy nation) so you are likely just as ruthless::

We could all slightly decrease our disposable incomes (spent on shit we don't need) and increase the life expectancy or QoL for someone in a poor country.

Me too: I spent thousands on a holiday (profit for my soul) and I didn't give the money to a worthy charity. I'm no fan of Musk, but I think there's better arguments for dumping on him if you really need to do that.


I don't think such out of context nihilistic arguments are helpful at all, actually I'm pretty sure they are harmful to getting any change done.

I also never said there aren't many other things bad about Musk.

And comparing doing decisions out of greed which will straight forward risk the live of many and you aren't even gaining that much from it (compared with what you already do gain from the same source) with "we as a society could if we where a hive mind life more frugal and help another society else where" is just a very pointless thing.

But even if they where the same, what does that change, just because you also do something bad doesn't mean it's less bad or more tolerable or should be tolerated.

> We could all slightly decrease our disposable incomes (spent on shit we don't need) and increase the life expectancy or QoL for someone in a poor country.

But we can't, or more specifically any specific individual can't, they can at best try to influence things by voting with their money and votes. But that is a completely different context.

And that doesn't mean you shouldn't spend you money with care and donate money if you can afford it.


Right, he despises environmental regulations because he’s “trying to get us to a new home”, so who cares what happens to this one? Especially if it delays him doing so.

Someone said in an interview “Elon desperately wants the world saved. But only if by him.”


Earth is the only home, any other planetary body would be akin to homelessness. Words cannot adequately express the sheer small-minded ignorance of these feckless technocrats, the unadulterated hubris to presume themselves remotely capable of surpassing eons of biospheric development with their fucking spaghetti code that can't even drive a car properly. With such a level of dangerous stupidity posing an existential threat to all life in this solar system, it is nothing short of the gravest immorality to allow such a dim-witted, mean-spirited, drugged-out, misguided moron to remain in a position of power and control.

There is no planet B.


> “Elon desperately wants the world saved. But only if by him.”

I believe that's also Lex Luthor's motivation in All Star (?) Superman.




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