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It's wild to me that this is at the top of Hacker News, but not even on the Google News front page.

I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.




I think there's a fascination in the amount of hardware and software engineering that goes into making a bunch of metal tubes and curves that weight 100,000+ lbs able to fly at 30,000 ft for hours. And we get very upset/interested when these things fail.


>I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.

Not really, how many of these accidents from last year do you recognize?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...

It gets all over the news when a whole lot of people die, for evident reasons.


Google News is pretty awful nowadays. I feel like Google stopped caring about it years ago.


An algorithmic fluff than actual news


> I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.

The problem is everyone seems to have survived


Also, not in the United States.


Delta flight from Minnesota


Google news stopped linking/showing Canadian news sites after some law was passed around financial compensation.


Likely because there was no casualty, which doesn't really make headlines.

On the other hand, the concentration of people who are interested in planes/flights are definitely higher on HN than something as generic as Google news


Sadly, the lack of morbidity because there's no dead people makes it not top news elsewhere.


It’s on all the news sites in Canada.


Yeah, that's surprising... And I think this feels like something people would want to know about


HN has a particular fascination with aviation disasters. No disrespect at all, I've learnt more about aviation here than anywhere else. Before I came here I just assumed the whole thing to be magic.


> HN has a particular fascination with aviation disasters.

HN has a fascination with Boeing's incompetency, greed and corner cutting that resulted in lost lives. That evolved tangentially into an interest in aviation incidents and accidents.


> That evolved tangentially into

I really think that's some reverse causality here (source: been here since at least 2012, eyeing my account registration date). The Boeing thing is of recent years but commercial airline crashes have always been interesting to many people from my perception


You can see it in CGPGrey's long defunct Hello Internet podcast. He talked about aviation disasters often and name dropped hacker news a few times.


Just wanted to point out that Boeing's various disasters are not due to greed but to the combination of stupidity and greed.

When smart people get greedy, they build things that last and that they can be proud of, because that's what's best for them long term.

Whereas when smart people have zero greed, they build nothing at all. You need a strong motivation to power you through the pain of creating something good.


> because that's what's best for them long term

Is it? Many greedy people seem to happily fail upwards (or sideways to different companies). The baseline for compensation is generally what your previous compensation was, not the long-term success of your creations.


The people in charge could have made billions more if they held stock for the rest of their lives in a successful company that they helped build.

A long term success is a safer bet, a bigger payout, less stressful, and something to be proud of on your deathbed.

Compare causing and then jumping from one shipwreck to another like a stressed out little rat.

A smart person who wants a great life will choose a long-term orientation.


Sounds like Hammerstein's classification of soldiers, the stupid/smart/lazy/industrious matrix.


As a software focused community, it's interesting to see how engineering is done it safety critical industries.


And accident investigation! Wish such detailed analysis was done in other fields.


Why would that be "disrespectful"?


It could be read as calling people here rubberneckers, which is not exactly a compliment


The interest doesn’t come from wanting to see random destruction like rubberneckers do. Commercial passenger aviation is as safe as it gets and incidents require multiple things to go wrong.

An aviation disaster is a fascinating thing because it pushes forward safety protocols or engineering safeguards.

There is nothing interesting about a car that smashes into a guardrail, which is what rubberneckers are into.


An other aspect of aviation disasters that is much more interesting than other disasters is that aviation has had a long history of using a different approach when it comes to investigation and human factors. Even the language we use, like "pilot error" is deeply connected to aviation disaster history, which get applied in many more areas than just aviation.


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