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If we invested as much into rail safety as we do into air safety, it'd be fair to compare them. Regardless, in the long term rail transportation is simply much more sustainable and increased investment is very much warranted


It's also much more pleasant. And in the rare cases when things do go wrong your chances of survival are much higher.


> And in the rare cases when things do go wrong your chances of survival are much higher.

That's a completely irrelevant metric.

The only thing that matters is my risk of injury/death per passenger mile. Trains are much worse. End of story.

What you're saying is that trains get into far more accidents, but that don't injure/kill you. On top of still being much more likely to injure/kill you.

And you think that's a good thing...?


You should compare to a country which invests significant effort into a safe railway, such as the UK.

There have been 7 passenger deaths in the UK in the last 20 years, with around 60 billion passenger km each year.

That seems to be of the same magnitude as aircraft passenger deaths per km, though I can't find those statistics in precisely the same form.


> It's also much more pleasant.

And much slower. Most people prefer shorter discomfort over a longer one.

Also sometimes more expensive because train service is much more monopolized due to the need for infrastructure betweem stations.


Granted the lines are a natural monopoly. I don't see why the usual regulatory approaches shouldn't work. The government could even provide the infrastructure similar to highways.

> sometimes more expensive

Examples? Because that seems patently ridiculous on its face given the differences in energy requirements.

There are plenty of places with functional rail systems to compare to. This stuff isn't rocket science.


Prices have little to do with cost when monopolies are involed, that's the point.

DB quote for "high"speed train from Frakfurt to Paris: from 151 €

Flight from Frakfurt to Paris: options as low as 76 €

This isn't a 100% fair comparison but hopefully serves to demonstrate the absurdity.


That is indeed absurd, and I would argue a clear regulatory failure. Thank you for the example though. That is pretty wild.

Still, there's a decent chance I'd personally choose to pay that premium for the comfort afforded by train travel while nonetheless being disgusted by the broader situation.




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