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Nobody has replicated 9/11, and to my knowledge, nobody has tried. If it's so easy to do so, then the perception of safety must be working great!

To be effective, safety measures don't have to block people who are smart and wouldn't commit the crime anyway. They only have to block the people dumb enough to do it.



Nobody has replicated 9/11 because as soon as the passengers figured out the new threat model, there was no chance of getting away with it. Flight 93 figured it out before 9/11 was even over. The locked cockpit doors are the suspenders to the “let’s roll” belt. There will be no new 9/11 until 9/11 falls out of living memory.


That idea is also a perception of safety. No team of hijackers has attempted to take over a plane post 9/11.

If TSA is just theater, couldn't an attacker simply bring weapons sufficient enough to hold off the crowd and break the door? The hijackers on 93 only had box cutters.

It is the combined perception of airport security and the perception that passengers will fight that deter bad actors from even trying.


It's the cockpit doors that prevent another 9/11, and those have nothing to do with TSA. Even if you could bring box cutters onto the plane you wouldn't be able to take it over. Plus, like you said, awareness among passengers. That also has nothing to do with TSA.


There are others in the this comment section saying it is easy to take a gun through TSA. If that is true, why would an attacker want to bring another box cutter? If the TSA is ineffective, couldn't someone bring a tool to break the cockpit door?

My point is that none of these things have to be impenetrable. There is a swiss-cheese model to safety. TSA doesn't have to be 100% effective to be effective. Every layer of security adds up. There is no single component responsible for all airline security, not even the cockpit doors.


No tigers have broken into my home since I put up a metal detector on my front door either.


If tigers were breaking in before, then it looks like you scared them away. [0]

I'm guessing they weren't though, in which case this is a false equivalency. People did hijack airplanes prior to (and during) 9/11

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_scarer


So there's three problems with the argument for TSA: 1. We did a lot of things in response to 9/11 (e.g. locking cockpit doors, TSA, increasing awareness). It's unclear whether TSA was a component that helped.

2. In the modern world, it's unclear whether hijacking is a severe risk to planes (compared to drones or missiles which are way more acquirable by terrorists and civilians than they were 25 years ago)

3. TSA has a documented and repeated ~80% failure rate at detecting threats. To the extent security theater is effective, you would expect that that effectiveness would disappear once everyone knew that they most likely wouldn't stop the attack.


> TSA has a documented and repeated ~80% failure rate at detecting threats. To the extent security theater is effective, you would expect that that effectiveness would disappear once everyone knew that they most likely wouldn't stop the attack.

Well, if we caught 20% of threats across the 19 hijackers on 9/11, there would have been a 99% chance one was caught. And a 67% chance that someone was caught in each group for each of the first 3 planes with 5 hijackers.

But even if they do miss 80% of the failures in penetration tests, what actually matters is whether or not real world threats are being caught. Threat actors in the real world act with different motivations than penetration testers, and with different skill sets.




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