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Deep mind has one set of censorship, OpenAI another, anything musk does a third

It’s all “massaged”




I don’t think “Taiwan is China” is the same kind of massaging as not telling people how to make napalm…

What a weird thing to equate, though!


But Taiwan is China. Even the USA acknowledge that.


No, they’ve acknowledged the policy. The US has not “agreed” with the policy, which is different.

Also, as someone in the US I can very safely say that Taiwan is not China and have no concern for my safety.


> Also, as someone in the US I can very safely say that Taiwan is not China and have no concern for my safety.

But you will be arrested if you stage a peaceful pro-Palestine protest asking for an end to the ongoing genocide.

Or even worse, if you say that Palestine is not Israel.


No I won't, in either case.

Watch: Palestine is not Israel.

Look, nobody swooping in from the rafters to lock me up. I have zero worries the government will do anything at all about my making this claim.

And if staging peaceful pro-Palestine protests result in arrests, what happened here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_March_on_Washington:_...

or here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Gaza

Or does that not fit your narrative?


> Watch: Palestine is not Israel.

Yes, that works because you're an anon and nobody really cares. Try to publicly make that statement if you're in any relevant position and you'll very quickly be looking for a new job, if you can ever find it.

> And if staging peaceful pro-Palestine protests result in arrests, what happened here?

Be honest, you can literally google "Palestine protest arrests" and get more results than you could process in a while. You presenting a couple examples doesn't negate the many other protests ended in mass arrests.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashida_Tlaib would like a word.

She would not be a politician (or even alive) if any of what you claim is true. You claimed that the US government censors people who speak out against Israel's occupation of Palestine, and specifically that saying Palestine isn't Israel would not be possible in the United States in the same way that saying, for example, Xi Jinping looks like Winnie the pooh is censored in China.

This is, of course, completely false, and demonstrably so by observing the protests I just linked (of which there are thousands, not a few), and the statements Rep. Tlaib, a Palestinian American and member of the US government, regularly says on the national stage.

The equivocation of Chinese censorship and Western censorship simply doesn't work.


Nice, you even have a token irrelevant politician without any power, perfect to use as example that all is allowed in the free US of A.

I'll reply with a few actual examples of what I mean:

- https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/academic-...

- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/university-p...

- https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/3/claudine-gay-res...

- https://hwsherald.com/2024/04/14/jodi-dean-suspended-from-te...

I think western propaganda is overall the cleverest, because it manages to completely marginalize and silence any non-aligned opinion, while at the same time convincing you that you are completely free to have said opinion.


Why do you think anything you've just linked is at all related to this conversation? A system must be perfect to be good? That's an insane bar that is not the actual standard.

And if you think a US representative is powerless then you completely fail to understand how the US government actually works.


It is though. Western AI tries to hide information like that with the justification of safety as well as things that might be offensive to current popular beliefs. Chinese AI presumably says Taiwan is China to help get more people on side for a possible future invasion. Propaganda does work - look at how many people think Donbas is still Ukraine and Israel is still Palestine.


The difference is that in China the info isn’t available without use of Western content, due to the totalitarian control over media, whereas in the West, information is pretty trivially available, even if the big companies keep it off of their platforms.

And sure ignorance is prevalent, but even GPT4 will tell me Donbas is still Ukraine, for instance. What a strange example to use, though!


"GPT4 will tell me Donbas is still Ukraine"

But is it though? What's really the meaning of which country a region belongs to? Once somewhere has been occupied long enough, it usually becomes de-facto theirs. But how long is long enough? Other countries either do or don't recognize it and usually a consensus is reached, but not always.


If western governments are so tolerant and permissive with information, I wonder why can't I access RT in Europe?


Because you don’t know how to use a Western VPN?


Isn't it the same in China then? They can also use VPNs


...and where, pray tell, do they VPN into?




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