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This isn't about people speaking candidly. It's about not hurting the feelings of people who do and work on bad things and allowing them to still get invited to events without fearing any consequences for their actions.

It's the same reason Kissinger still got invites to Manhattan social events (and, bizarrely, Clinton campaign events) long after it was known that he was a traitor and a war criminal.



No, I think it’s about not having to fear being retweeted publicly for what you intended to be private discussions.


No. The Chatham House Rule only bars the attribution of the statements, not the sharing of the statements or the things they contain.

It’s not simply for privacy or nondisclosure. You are free to disclose, the discussions are not private.


That's what I said: it's to prevent people from being quoted publicly.


People can still be quoted verbatim publicly.


Maybe I'm confused then. So one would be permitted to post on Twitter:

"khazhoux said yesterday: 'Megalopolis is the greatest film of the 21st century'"?

I thought the point was you can't attribute -- no names. And without a name, it's not actually a public quoting...


> not hurting the feelings of people who do and work on bad things

Yes, the Chatham House Rule is practically designed to exclude people who have an immutable black-and-white worldview.


How so? It would seem to encourage people to say thoughtless, shallow things, among more open things.


> would seem to encourage people to say thoughtless, shallow things, among more open things

Based on what? If anything, baseless grandstanding is incentivised by an audience.


Generally, lack of consequence results in people behaving less responsibly, but ...

> baseless grandstanding is incentivised by an audience

... the dynamic you cite has been far more influential in humanity's new social medium, social media.

Arguably, though, that is due to a lack of consequence for their actions. Zuckerberg says these things and there are no serious conequences (possibly; we'll see). When there are conequences, it does stop people - look at the effectiveness of the anti-DEI and anti-LGBTQ mobs in silencing people and organizations.




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