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> What is the deal? How do you square this?

Loving God means appreciating, at least to some extent, God's wonderful design of this mathematical universe, its mystery and grandeur, and the scientific structures of nature, which includes ourselves, and so much more.

I am not "Frustrated" my friend, and I'm not a "Monkey"; I'm a human being with a body whose body plan is based upon the mammals, specifically the primates, but with important differences. And I am happy because I understand how to live life and have done a fair job at living it.

I am open-minded and open-hearted and love you and everyone I encounter, and this is the result of decisions I have made and practices I have performed. And I share this with you all in love and respect and service, but it's only my responsibility to lead you to the water. I cannot make you drink, so my duty ends there, where also ends my concern.

What I am saying to you is that you cannot understand my perspective until you enter the Path of Love. I offer you this out of no desire for myself, only for your happiness and the happiness of those around you.

There's a reason you can not provide one cogent argument to any of my detailed responses to you, and Occam's Razor suggests why, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with me. Dunning-Kruger is instructive, my friend, very instructive, indeed.

We love you.



Strictly speaking, you haven't offered anything to respond to.

Just simply repeating things like :

- "there are unknowns" thus "god is the way"

- "the universe is beautiful, thus god"

- "Truth, Truth, Truth, I know the Truth, listen to me, I know the Truth, you just need to realize it, you can't see it, I can see it".

People have been repeating these same ideas for thousands of years.

I think maybe you need help:

Mysticism and schizophrenia: Religious delusions are a common symptom of schizophrenia, and can be difficult to treat

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S105381001...


I need a great deal of help. This world is overrun by a combination of the cruel and those indifferent to its cruelty. We need as many people as possible to learn how selfless compassion is the solution to all our problems.

As to help, I get it every day from a place you deny exists. And I spend all my time on this site helping others.

And you are deliberately misquoting me, please don't.

Once the ad hominems begin, I know the contest is over, the opponent's resignation has been signaled, and my hand is raised. If you don't like the bitter taste of your defeat, you can learn from what I've written here, and become a winner.

The key to the Dunning-Kruger true-experts is their humility. You should learn from that, too. We love you.


I repeat. Strictly speaking you haven't actually taken a position, or made a point, to argue against. I quoted back to you, your positions, just summarized. As I said, they are thousands of years old, and re-hashing them isn't going to convince anyone, otherwise why would people still be arguing about them.

The mishmash of science and Christian ideas isn't very coherent, and does not come off very well. You really do sound crazy. But, you do sound sincere.

So.

Let's give the benefit of the doubt to a crazy sounding person on the internet.

Let's assume you have had some mystical experiences. You've read some science, you've had some mystical experiences. Now, you are trying to grasp it, or deal with this experience. The struggle is real. To figure out what is going on in the universe and where you fit in, with this experience you've had. I'm assuming you are in the US, so grew up inundated with pop-Christian Dogma and propaganda that has very little relations back to the bible. You took that mishmash of US-Christian non-bible ideas, mixed it with some science, and now sound crazy.

All I can say is, Christianity will lead you down the wrong paths. It is a waste of time at best, damaging at worst. If you do need a Spiritual guide, or help, look to the East. Maybe Buddhism (not pure land), or Advaita Vedanta (hindu influenced by buddhism). Or even some William James (The Varieties of Religious Experience).

Technically, they are also wrong, because no religion/philosophy can explain reality to our little monkey brain, but will at least get you in the right direction. I repeat, they are also wrong, everyone is wrong. But, they at least have some non-damaging ideas. Try some meditation, focus on your breathing, go for a run, eat more vegetables.

Form Is Emptiness, Emptiness Is Form

https://studybuddhism.com/en/advanced-studies/lam-rim/vipash...




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