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nit: you can indeed know a pinto would blow up before it blows up. But you go to your city square and get laughed at because they trust Ford over some car mechanic who looked deeply into the car.

Of course, I'm describing a literal forum here (physical forums! good times). I wonder how many whistleblowers out there highlighted some dark pattern in the past 20 years and were cast off as a conspiracy nut. Both publicly and in internal company channels.

nit2: it's so strange how times have changed. 40-50 years ago his Pinto recall was company ending. Nowadays the Cybertruck has had what? 5 recalls now? And it still has this bizarre cult behind it. What happened to people? what happened to wanting a driveable car (nevermind those truck minded audiences the cybertruck targets who claims to do more than just drive)?




nit2, here are the four Cybertruck recalls [1].

1. Windshield wiper motor failure.

2. Loose trim from the bed.

3. Accelerator pedal can stick.

4. Wrong sized font used for the warning lights.

Wiper was fixed with OTA update. Accelerator pedal was fixed on all trucks within the first week after it was discovered.

> And it still has this bizarre cult behind it.

That doesn't mean sales haven't been hurt, but anyone actually interested will see that the above list isn't an issue. Toyota had a similar recall some years ago, and it hurt their sales too [3]. It's a good idea to skip first model years of any car.

[1] https://www.cars.com/research/tesla-cybertruck/recalls/

[3] https://www.npr.org/2010/02/02/123283959/gas-pedal-woes-put-...


You're right about 4 and maybe 2. But #3 is pretty much by biggest one of my top 3 fears in a car. Stuck accelerator or non-working breaks. I was already cast off before hand but I'd never buy a new [car brand] car knowing that kind of issue existed before.

#1 is a big issue but not for my area.


> I'd never buy a new [car brand] car knowing that kind of issue existed before.

There's some severe information bias here. If you actually believe this, then you're basically restricted from buying most vehicles. Toyota is out [1] along with, BMW [2], Ford [3], Chevy [4], Honda [5], Volvo [6], Mercedes [7] and more. The cars affected in those are similar to orders of magnitude more. These were all first results, one vehicle, but I'm sure there are many more examples for each.

The odd tribalism is what I find most interesting about the Cybertruck. And no, I'm not interested in buying a Cybertruck.

[1] https://www.cars.com/articles/toyota-recalls-2-3-million-veh...

[2] https://repairpal.com/recall/04V409000

[3] https://repairpal.com/recall/99V265000

[4] https://www.asburyauto.com/gmc-accelerator-pedal-recall

[5] https://www.asburyauto.com/honda-accelerator-pedal-recall

[6] https://www.motorsafety.org/volvo-recalls-xc40-bev-suvs-that....

[7] https://www.panish.law/2012/08/stuck-gas-pedal-risk-prompts-...


Well I did pretty good, because I never owned any of these brands of cars.

But I was talking more about models, not "all teslas are banned". If they can improve on these issues in next year's model, then that's something to be encouraged, not dropped altogether over one fixable issue.

>The odd tribalism is what I find most interesting about the Cybertruck.

I don't particularly care about any car enough to attack/defend it. But A bad pedal is a bad pedal, and I'm lucky if I get more than one time to learn that lesson in person. Of course I'm going to be wary if a recall this serious occurs.




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