> Legitimately what is a better time in history for the total amount of human suffering to be less?
The British could have said the same to Americans a couple hundred years ago and that was also true. It wasn't enough to stop the American revolution tho.
While factually correct, That statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, or this argument at all.
You've now changed the topic from what was originally discussed to something different. Was that your intention? Or am I missing something about the argument?
If someone (like you) had convinced the US that the Pax Inglesa was good enough, no Pax Americana would exist. What is to say is that let's say, the Pax Chinesa, could be better and more prosperous than the Pax Americana so we should not be afraid of ditching the US in favor of alternatives.
> What is to say is that let's say, the Pax Chinesa, could be better and more prosperous than the Pax Americana so we should not be afraid of ditching the US in favor of alternatives.
Right from the american independence, it was obvious to the whole world that american model is more free and democratic than british. Revolutionaries all around the world, in France, in Haiti, in South America (both Simon Bolivar and Jose de San Martin) held the new USA as a model to follow.
Can anyone say that about China? Well, of course, somebody can — there are influencers who try to sell China and Russia as a better alternative to the western world. But expect to be taken as seriously as these influences then.
That was 200 years ago. Nowadays the US offers no guidance on freedom or prosperity. Pretty much the opposite, US corporations/Big Tech drains capital from the whole world to keep the resources flowing to US americans benefit.
The Marshall plan was so long ago (and didn't benefit my country, Brazil). Current US doesn't like to share (besides spending a lot of money to protect Western Europe and parts of Asia). It is no surprise most countries are looking for alternatives.
The British could have said the same to Americans a couple hundred years ago and that was also true. It wasn't enough to stop the American revolution tho.