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> making it impossible for X to challenge what they viewed as unconstitutional orders to censor speech

Unconstitutional in which country? And if you disagree with that in Brazil you can make your case to the Supreme Court.

Musk was playing chicken with a Brazilian Supreme Court judge who called his bluff. He obviously lost, because the latter has immediate legal power and X doesn't.




Well se who lost no less than 7 days from now.


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Please stop. The moment you mentioned started mixing the Executive with the Judiciary ("has support of sitting president") it became clear you are not providing pure facts, but an opinion.

The way I see this: the Supreme Court asked X to remove content and accounts that main purpose were to promote hate and aggression towards the electoral system and institutions; X didn't comply; fines were issued; fines were never paid by X; the justice started using all available legal tools to fulfill the previous mandates (content removal and/or pecuniary penalties).


> Please stop. The moment you mentioned started mixing the Executive with the Judiciary ("has support of sitting president") it became clear you are not providing pure facts, but an opinion.

If you are going to post here, you need to engage in good faith. A five second search could have brought you to numerous articles quoting Lula where he supports Alexandre de Moraes’s actions and criticizes Musk. So yes, the executive and the judiciary are mixed because one is lending support publicly to the other. Those are the FACTS.

> The way I see this: the Supreme Court asked X to remove content and accounts that main purpose were to promote hate and aggression towards the electoral system and institutions

It doesn’t matter if accounts promote “hate and aggression towards the electoral system and institutions” (which just sounds like hyperbole for criticizing political processes) - that isn’t sufficient grounds for state enforced censorship in any free and democratic society. If you want to admit that Brazil has turned authoritarian, that’s one thing. But these convoluted narratives are wildly inaccurate and unconvincing.


You do not understand Brazilian rule of law at all. WE have a specific bill that regulate specifically the internet and social media. We have a penal code that assure that freedom of speech it's not absolute. You do not have the right to be racis (for instance if you wear a nazi flag or post nazi content you go to jail). In 2021 the supreme court established a dept exactly to study and create legal mechanisms to understand and protect disinformation (specially on electoral period): https://portal.stf.jus.br/desinformacao/ And also a vast jurisprudence on the subject on many instances of Brazilian Legal System: https://www.tjdft.jus.br/consultas/jurisprudencia/jurisprude...


A bill cannot override constitutionally granted civil liberties. The penal code is secondary to the constitution. Regardless, no law was passed to give de Moraes the powers he now claims. He even literally said that his power comes from the electoral court that he was president of, not from a constitutional amendment or legislation. Do you think the judiciary should be able to grant itself powers arbitrarily? Does it make logical sense for De Moraes to serve on one court that grants himself powers in a different court?


> You do not understand Brazilian rule of law at all.

Seems like the poster understands the law part fine, but not the rule part.


> Musk is his own person. Twitter/X is not run by Musk, but a different CEO, Linda Yaccarino.

Right. Everyone can see that.




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