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And they'll say that it's only bad when China does it.


It is impossible to have a critical conversation about the government and its reach into one's personal data on the Chinese internet so I don't know if the comparison is apt.


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Actually, we know for a fact that the US 3-letter agencies routinely engage in illegal activities and perform illegitimate searches even on their own citizens, let alone the rest of the world. It's been 11 years since Snowden leaks, it's insane how many people seem to pretend that it never happened


Considered illegitimate by whom? Chinese citizens might find the requests from the Chinese government legitimate.

On the other hand, citizens of the EU might find requests from the US government illegitimate. US national security is far less a legitimate reason if you are not a citizen of the US.


We are talking about the US context here specifically and the legal process they have set up in place to ensure the rights of their citizens are balanced appropriately against the country’s national security concerns.

If you’re making a larger point that espionage is a thing however that’s a very different conversation and not a particularly fruitful one I don’t think.

In the same way that all people across the world are potential targets of collection from any group who has the capability to do so. At that point we are just back to the exact same set of arguments that apply to online advertising for example. There are things in there to be pissed about no doubt but it’s a lot more nuanced than that too.


We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves almost entirely perfect.

Meanwhile, Google just heavily obfuscated news on Trump’s assassination attempt, including many of the reports on the Congressional hearings.


> We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves almost entirely perfect

This sums up OP post completely. And guy still have the audacity to think the chinese are the brainwashed.


The Chinese are largely brainwashed too, yes, as are most poeple that don't go out of their way to consume information that isn't approved by their respective government. Governments listening to their citizens on how to run themselves has been changed into governments getting their citizens to behave how the government wants all around the world.


"Trump assassination attempt" brings up a ton of information from Google. When and how was this "heavily obfuscated?"

I've seen numerous claims posted here about Google "mass censoring" something and it always seems to be blown out of proportion.


It was part of their political violence filter[0], and has been fixed. I’m no fan of Google’s, but that does seem like a legitimate filter to have in place. I’d give Google the pass on this one.

[0] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/google-admits-to-omi...


> that does seem like a legitimate filter to have in place

No it doesn't.


...only impacting autofill, not the actual search results.


The results were crap. It was articles from MSM with no details, just opinions.

None of the reports on Congressional Hearings and their findings ever showed up in the top for me.


So the conspiracy being alleged is that Google "censored" the autofill but not the actual search (which they admitted to) and... featured mainstream media sources (which they always do) and... somehow got all of those news agencies to purposely write stories badly, omitting details and pushing opinions (which they always do) so that Google could push the results for the real stories past the fold, where it would take the monumental effort of scrolling the mouse wheel and maybe clicking a link to find?

Those devious bastards....


Great example of the RWNJ crowd where everything is a conspiracy against them all the time so that they never have to answer questions like why their family won’t talk to them anymore.


Actually, it was great example of trying to dismiss a bunch of real individual actors doing real things to label people on conspiracy theories and RWNJ as you just did.

Many people hate Trump. Many of them said they wish he was killed. Many still wish he will get jailed or will get killed. Is it really shocking that those people act in a way that hides or belittles the assassination attempt? Is it really shocking that when added together, it can seem like a conspiracy, because it really seems that coordinated? The people that are so deeply infected with TDS have one mission in mind, without even talking to each other.

Granted, at the same time, I'm guessing your going to tell me there aren't any conspiracies ro murder Trump, and that this assassination attempt is no way connected to one?


> I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand the difference between legitimate and illegitimate requests.

Does the law mandates unlimited access to all data ? Even for people who are not suspected of commiting a crime ?




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