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What a cool product! I was about to recommend you to submit it as a "Show HN", but it turns out that it already got submitted one year ago.

Would you mind sharing a bit on how things have evolved?



Thanks and great question :)

When we first launched, the tool was very manual; you had to generate each step via the UI. We then added a "Loop Creator agent" that now builds Loops for you without intervention. Over the past few months we've mostly been fixing feature gaps and improving the Loop Creator.

Based on recent user feedback, we've put a few things in motion:

- Form generator (for manual loops)

- Chrome extension (for local automations)

- In-house Google Sheets integration

- Custom outputs (charts, tables, etc.)

- Custom Blocks (shareable with other users)

With these improvements, you'll be able to create "single page apps" like this one I made for my wife's annual mango tasting party[0].

In addition to those features, we're also launching a new section for Loop templates + educational content/how-tos, in an effort to help people get started.

To be super candid, the Loop Creator has been a pain. We started at an 8% success rate and we're only just now at 25%. Theoretically we should be able to hit 80%+ based on existing loop requests, but we're running into limits with the current state of LLMs.

[0]https://mangota.ngo


Where do you get such a large variety of mangoes?


My mother-in-law is the President of the Central Florida Fruit Society, and is in charge of sourcing mangoes for their annual party. She sends us all the excess mangoes :)

As I understand it, this year's mangoes mostly came from Merritt Island, as there was some not-so-great weather in southern Florida.


Mango production was down here in Rockledge too (right next to Merritt Island). Bad year all around for production. Last year was awesome though.

Are you in central florida, or is that just your in laws? I'd love to see a talk on this at the local orlando devs meetup.


Not in central Florida but visit frequently, would love to attend a local dev meetup next time I’m in town.

Any that you’re particularly fond of?


The devops group is good, but the main one (Orlando Devs aka odevs) is what I was thinking. Covid messed things up quite a bit and things are still getting going again in terms of individual groups.

You can join the slack here if you want to know what meetups are happening and when: https://orlandodevs.com/slack/


Asking the important questions


> To be super candid, the Loop Creator has been a pain. We started at an 8% success rate and we're only just now at 25%. Theoretically we should be able to hit 80%+ based on existing loop requests, but we're running into limits with the current state of LLMs.

That blows my mind! You have users paying for it and it only has a 25% success rate for loops created by users? I've been working for about a year on an LLM-based product and haven't launched yet because only 50-60% of my test cases are passing.


> only has a 25% success rate for loops created by users.

Not quite! Most of our paying users use Magic Loops to build automations semi-manually, oftentimes requiring a back-and-forth work with the Loop Creator at the start and then further prompt iterations as the Loop progresses.

The 25% statistic is from the Loop Creator "agent" (now 32% after some HN traffic :tada:) which is based on a single-shot user prompt -> Loop Creator output success rate.

The number is much higher for Loops with multiple iterations and almost 100% for manually created Loops.

tl;dr - the power of the tool isn't the Loop Creator "agent", it's the combination of code+llms that make building one-off workflows super fast and easy.


Ah okay, that makes sense - very cool!


This would be great in the extension format:

highlights-text --> Right-Click --> New ML --> (smart dropdown for watch [price|name|date|{typed-in-prompt-instructions}] --> TAB --> (smart frequency - tabbing through {watch blah (and its auto-filling every N ) --> NAME_ML=ML01.

THEN:

highlights-text --> Right-Click .... WHEN {ML01} == N DO {this|ML0X} --> ML00

ML00 == EMAIL|CSV|GDrive results.

ML11 == Graph all the above outputs.

:-)


Thanks for all the detail and I’m fascinated by this.

We’re working on fairly similar problems, would love to have a chat and share ideas and experiences.

In this something you’d be interested in?


Always happy to chat!

You can ping me at {username}@gmail.com


Sent!




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