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WWDC 2024 [video] (youtube.com)
49 points by twilightzone 8 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 51 comments



I like how fast they turned “ha ha, at least they have a sense of humor about how stupid it is that it’s taken this long to get Calculator on iPad” into “…oh my” when Pencil entered the picture.

Good that it delivers something really nice and isn’t just finally getting the damn thing on iPad.


Seems like they waited until they could do what Craig said of an iPad calculator app in 2020, “There’s some things that we have not done because we would want to do something really distinctly great in that space,” the Apple VP explained. “We want to do it when we can do it really, really well. And we honestly just haven’t gotten around to doing it great.”

https://apple.news/Avb5yX1lORG2uYmyWAB8VsA


Yea I was tempted to make a joke that it took them 14 years (still ridiculous), but the new calculator app actually looks really impressive, and potentially will make learning math a lot more fun.


I'm not an iPhone user and not aware of any anti-spam features the Mail app already has, but I wonder how many marketing managers recoiled in their chairs when Apple introduced a GMail-style "promotions" folder away from the inbox, and say it's easy to group-digest and delete all mails from a single business.

edit for typo and clarity


The Promotions tab could be much better in a stroke of a pen. Google just doesn’t want it to be.


This feels like a parody of itself at times. I really wish they'd make these less cringeworthy so I could actually sit through the whole thing.


I'm quite sure (and hope) that in many cases - at least in this year's WWDC keynote - it was in fact intentionally a parody of itself.

A bunch of these were really on the nose.


Yeah it seems kinda meta and extra chippy than I remember it


Remember when WWDC was actually cool/fun? The dad jokes and over the top marketing BS is truly insufferable at this point.

Apple is definitely in its Balmer era. Give us something to get excited about, the presenters aren’t even excited about what they’re presenting.


it feels like microsoft showing off apple software


If you'd play a drinking game where you take a sip everyone assumes that awkward power stance, you'd be completely wasted 20 minutes in


So far, everything should have just been a blog post


I'm also feel Apple announced a bunch of feature that doesn't make the platform more useful in any general way. Like, I don't NEED iOS to pick my watch background photo or recolor my icons.


On the contrary these aesthetic things are what like 99% of people actually want.


Android has long had more aesthetic customization, but I doubt a statistically significant number of people make buying decisions based on it.

They are features people use, but they're refinements rather than significant advancements. I think the root of the situation here is that smartphones are mostly feature-complete.


I'm sorry for a personal off-topic rant, but if true this just makes me sad.


Somewhere a tailor is sad that people care more about what color their T-shirt is, rather than the type of weave and stitch pattern. But phones, like T-shirts, are now just commodities.


I have to wonder what Jobs would have thought about contemporary Apple using AI to mindlessly generate imitation Pixar images.


He would call them a bunch of tasteless bozos.


this is the video form of "bug fixes and performance improvements", and about as charismatic


Got in late, seems like I can't rewind on this stream??


Since rewind is disabled, here's a live summary: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/10/wwdc-2024-live-coverage...


20 years ago I followed the macrumors WWDC feed because streaming was broken (for bandwidth / my connection / quicktime reasons). Today, I will follow the macrumors WWDC feed because streaming is broken (for artistic direction reasons). The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Thanks, macrumors.


Thank you!


Same behavior for me, I assume that they're going to let the thing play out and then you'll be able to replay once the event finishes. Not sure why this has changed from other livestreams.


Sadly Apple always disables that feature.


I really wish they would switch these back to being live. It just adds a human element that cannot be captured with this crap. Steve stood up there in a black sweater and let the tech speak for itself. On these I'm stuck beholding the same class of high-income-Silicon-Valley-mid-40s where they are all kind of weirdly look and sound the same even though they are all trying so hard to have unique styles and they are all just so excited to be telling you the thing that is really important and gives their life deep meaning and peace and they are so happy.


Agree, seeing is believing. You can use CGI to make anything you want when it's video.


and once again - another year with a great iPad Hardware wise but essentially unusable for coding tasks software wise.. Would love a reason to buy one and use as a travel coding machine but without local support it remains a non-starter


I'm very disappointed they didn't make any improvements in this area. This was the number 1 thing I was hoping from.


I dislike a lot of the iOS changes are making it more "Android". It doesn't make things any easier or simpler. If I wanted ultra customisation I would have gotten an Android. And no Password App on iOS 18.


It's so good, every time I hear that apple has added essential functionality, I'm just like, 'about damn time'.

The customizations don't have to be used if you don't want them.


Preach. iOS 6 UI was peak iOS UI.


This. And then a coup happened inside Apple (the Apple maps debacle) to oust Scott Forstall.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Forstall#Departure_from_...

Reading his Wikipedia article, it seems like Cook made every misstep possible with Forstall. Does anyone honestly think Cook would still be CEO if he didn't have the massive momentum of iPhones behind him? Cook seems like he'll be considered this generation's Ballmer when all is said and done: a mediocre CEO that let massive advantages slip away and a board of directors that was too complacent to make the necessary changes to secure future growth.


Apple announcements, especially WWDC used to be very exciting. I've watched all Apple announcements live since 2020ish. This is the first year where I am not watching live because it's been "meh" for a while now, and I can just read about it later.


you should have seen them when they had a soul


Come on! You can place icons on the front screen in any position you want now!!


I expect Siri/OpenAI integration is going to be the star of the show.


Honestly, I expect than a Siri/OpenAI integration incorporates security measures and some kind of isolation from bare bone OpenAI/ChatGPT.

The interesting question, businesswise, is who will pay who. In the case of Google Search Engine it was Google who paid Apple! [1].

[1] https://searchengineland.com/google-pay-apple-safari-revenue...


Yes, I agree. I assume it runs entirely on device, and that's why it will require at least an Iphone15pro or higher.


And here’s the Apple Developer link… https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24/


Shame there was no mention that the Apple ][ launch on June 10, 1977. At least I didnt see anything in the running MacRumors summary.


Interesting the AAPL stock took a downturn right at 2:10pm EST after going up.


It's happened before (and with many other companies, not just Apple). It was trading higher over the last week in the lead up to the event, then the reality kicks in and people realize "Oh, there's really nothing groundbreaking that's going to triple the value of the company? Sell sell sell!" It's still up 11% (at this moment) from 90 days ago, and down about 0.5% from 5 days ago.


Math notes looks incredible, but it's probably one of those features that will be infuriating for anything remotely complex.


To a technical person, the discussion around AI felt really creepy and disingenuous, full of irrelevant distractions


lol .. place icons anywhere


Yeah, the very first announcement is something that android has been able to do since... 2012? Surprising. I'd love to see the apple marketing persona info on who watches these.


Just catching up on it, saw that. Gross, hope it’s optional, I don’t want to have to precisely place them.


literally lol'ed too




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