I have AI suggested edits turned off. It's the 4th setting down in the settings menu. AI suggestions in Cider can be disabled. And all of these things are web apps for which googlers have a rich history of creating Chrome extensions to change things they don't like or disagree with.
I don't feel it's obvious at all that this will become forced. What would that even mean – you don't get to edit code anymore but can only interact via chat with an AI which edits the code for you? I think it's obvious that's not going to happen.
Will there be a day when you can't turn off AI suggestions for something? Maybe, but suggestions aren't requirements, no one is forced to use them so at worst they're a minor UI annoyance.
I'm interested to hear why you have such a negative take on it? I don't particularly enjoy most AI implementations in products (not Google specific), but they're almost entirely optional everywhere, and ignoring them really isn't much of a problem.
You can turn off giving ai suggestions, not receiving them.
Not all AI affordances in cider can be disabled. There are plenty of people complaining about this on yaqs and buganizer.
> no one is forced to use them so at worst they're a minor UI annoyance.
This attitude is exactly the problem with Google and is why Google’s AI rollout has been terrible thus far. Luckily the stock is still going up, so whatever I guess.
You don't receive AI suggestions in code review, you receive suggestions from your reviewers. If they are providing bad recommendations, regardless of the source, I suggest providing them feedback.
I agree this may not be how they are used, but honestly, code review is a skill and many people are bad at it. Blindly suggesting things because an AI (or a presubmit) suggests it is bad form regardless of the source. People slam that "please fix" button without looking at what it's asking for, or without reading my detailed explanations of why I'm ignoring a recommendation, etc. This was already a problem and AI isn't changing that.
We can make code review better, but that comes through training reviewers better, not by ruling out AI tools just because they're AI tools.
> You don't receive AI suggestions in code review, you receive suggestions from your reviewers
If a reviewer makes a comment, Critique will create an AI suggestion based on their comment, even if they didn’t explicitly do so (unless they turn off giving AI suggestions on their end, but there’s no way to stop from seeing it from the other).
> not by ruling out AI tools just because they're AI tools.
This was not my point at all.
The point is that Google force feeds AI tools, and makes it difficult to opt out. In many cases it is not possible as shown with GenAI search.
Word of advice from someone who left: if you've reached the point you're trashing work for a root-level OKR that is considered existential, taking an absolutist exaggerated stance against it, and discussing fine-grained details of internal tools, while claiming they go against PR/"research papers"...you're well past the right time to leave.
We all have unique circumstances, but I can almost guarantee you that you'll be absurdly happier elsewhere.
Life's short, and no matter how much you save, something can take it away.
Better to start pursuing it now, than after being the sacrificial MI, or after the call from HR asking you to chill because a VP got upset and had lackeys reverse engineer your identity.
> We all have unique circumstances, but I can almost guarantee you that you'll be absurdly happier elsewhere.
Thanks for your insightful contribution - I read the post again and found this right after what you found, like, right after. I hope this helps clarify
Guarantee with what? Personal money? I know people who have more than 3+ years of experience having trouble with getting an offer after months of searching these days. What can you offer to guarantee the "happiness" "elsewhere"?
I don't feel it's obvious at all that this will become forced. What would that even mean – you don't get to edit code anymore but can only interact via chat with an AI which edits the code for you? I think it's obvious that's not going to happen.
Will there be a day when you can't turn off AI suggestions for something? Maybe, but suggestions aren't requirements, no one is forced to use them so at worst they're a minor UI annoyance.
I'm interested to hear why you have such a negative take on it? I don't particularly enjoy most AI implementations in products (not Google specific), but they're almost entirely optional everywhere, and ignoring them really isn't much of a problem.