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> That doesn't mean you should compare the country to second and third world countries when analyzing if something needs improvement or not

He didn't say that the US didn't need improvement.

The US' diversity means that the comparison is complicated. In fact, when you compare the US apples and oranges to apples and oranges in other countries, you find that the US is doing reasonably well. You're seeing consequences of the fact that the apple countries don't have oranges.

We'd be happy to give some oranges to apple countries so they can show us how to do it correctly....




I understand it's a big, diverse place, but at what point is this thing "United" and at what point is it "divided"?

I mean, either it's United or it's not.


> I mean, either it's United or it's not.

Why do you think that that's true? I ask because it isn't in other circumstances (particle vs wave).

The world doesn't care whether it's convenient.

There are various connections, but geography is the only common one.


Because the whole founding principle of the country is "One nation, under god, indivisible...".

It's supposed to be a singular entity where everyone is working towards the benefit of everyone, but that got lost somewhere along the way.


> Because the whole founding principle of the country is "One nation, under god, indivisible...".

That's from the pledge of allegiance, which was written in 1892, long after the nation was founded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

More important, you're confusing a goal with reality.




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