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Please point to the portion of the rocket that was designed or manufactured by Elon Musk.

Testimonies from SpaceX's own employees show that Musk is a capricious and immature meddler whose presence is to be managed and deflected rather than welcomed. His documented cronyism and looting of Tesla with his ridiculous and petulant demands for tens of billions in bonus compensation while threatening to leave the company if he doesn't get his way show that he treats Tesla as his personal piggybank rather than offering anything tangible, other than alienating Tesla's core demographic via his ill-considered tweets. Meanwhile, here on this site, every programmer knew he was a fraud of a manager the moment he ordered Twitter employees to print out their most recent code so that he could determine who to fire.

If Elon Musk didn't want to be called a liar, maybe he should try telling fewer lies?



Twitter is running fine post-firings, and he saved a ton of money.

If Elon is so horrific at SpaceX, why is it the only space organization (including NASA) able to innovate and ship anymore?

You can dislike his personality, but criticizing his performance is silly.


> why is it the only space organization (including NASA) able to innovate and ship anymore

Willingness and the ability to try and fail.

They haven't really invented anything conceptually new, it's just NASA has to play politics to get it's funding.


> They haven't really invented anything conceptually new

Concepts are a dime a dozen. Making them work is where the real contribution lies.


They have lost interest in actually shipping things since they get paid to do nothing anyway.

Same happens in big organizations like IBM, Yahoo, and now Google. Urgency to deliver results is missing from a lot of orgs, especially the public sector.


Blue Origin doesn't have to, and had much more investment. Virgin, too.

It's not just SpaceX outperforming NASA, it's SpaceX outperforming everyone.


SpaceX critics often forget (or more likely, never knew in the first place) that Bezos-backed Blue Origin was founded before SpaceX. The way they describe it, any rocket company backed by a very rich guy would have been destined for SpaceX's success, but that clearly just isn't true.


Twitter dropped in value to just 25% of what it was. Racism and naziism are rampant, endless stream of bots pushing propaganda or porn, and has any advertiser actually come back?


This is more rhetoric driven by a personal dislike of someone vs. reality.

> Twitter dropped in value to just 25% of what it was.

It's a private company. You don't know the value.

> Racism and naziism are rampant, endless stream of bots pushing propaganda or porn

Maybe on your feed? Statistically, no.

> and has any advertiser actually come back?

Who knows. It's still running after firing anyone: that's the point.

Tesla was the first and still the only electric car player that matters.

Same with SpaceX and space.

Again: you can dislike Elon's personality or politics, but trying to attack his results is ridiculous.


Fidelity cut the valuation of its stake at Twitter by 72% [1].

Elmo himself unbanned the prominent whitesuppremacist and neonazi “Nick Fuentes”.[2]

Hate-speech has increased significantly [3], and of course the lying and hypocritical self-proclaimed stalwart of free speech threatens to silence researchers documenting this [4].

Of course these are not the only instances of Elon’s grotesque behaviour.

For example, the pathetic little boy thinks “cis” is an insult and had that coded into the platform. His platform has tons of documented cases where the platform selectively hides speech deemed against the in-groups he favours.

His platform also pushes the visibility of neonazis, bigots and white suprematists like catturd. He keeps inserting his worthless little tweets into my feed despite me blocking and muting him.

Kindly, stop licking the boot.

[1] https://fortune.com/2024/01/02/elon-musk-twitter-value-72-pe...

[2] https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/elon-musk-nick-fuentes-x-ac...

[3] https://phys.org/news/2023-04-analysis-speech-significantly-...

[4] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/musk-threatens-to-sue-r...


Apparently you're still using X, despite loathing it?


Not really. News about all these come up on Reddit. I might open it once in a blue moon or if somebody sends me over there to read something supposedly interesting.


I love the fact that the comment with references is negative. Keep it classy HN.


“capricious, immature, meddler, cronyism, looting, petulant, ill-considered, fraud, liar”

Ever consider you may have some bias against him?


Someone here collected statements from SpaceX employees and others like John Carmack and Jim Keller testifying to Musk's deep technical knowledge, involvement and position as chief engineer: https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/k1e0ta/eviden...

You do realise that people can be capricious, immature, meddling, petulant, etc. while still being skilled engineers? This history of science and engineering is rife with people who were brilliant in some ways and childish and dishonest in others.




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