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> because the FSB was demanding info from them

But they gave the FSB info they asked for -- the vk.com website (facebook clone, at that time it had way more massive amounts of user data than telegram). They could have deleted the data, but no, they handed it over to FSB.




I will point out, in their defence, they handed it over to an organisation that has a habit of assisting people in learning how to fly from windows. This isn't to say Telegram is secure but that it's unlikely they "could have deleted the data" and remained alive.


FSB mostly wanted to prevent people organizing, and that would serve it well. They already had another popular service (odnoklassniki.ru) where to direct people.


vk.com and telegram have nothing in common, except the founder. Durov was forced to sell his part in the vk.com and telegram development started after that as a response.


> vk.com and telegram have nothing in common, except the founder.

This is a deeply funny sentence.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"


You conveniently forgot about the second part of that comment. Durov was forced out of the country and had to cell vk.com for peanuts because of his refusal to cooperate with the government. He is still pissed off at the country at large (not just the government) and refused to add the Russian translation for years, for example, despite it having absolutely nothing to do with Putin.

Since he is Russian in origin, it's okay to throw baseless accusations at him and spout nonsense like "maybe they're FSB agents" or "maybe they hired an FSB agent without knowing it". You see it here everywhere, and HN is one of the better sites in that regard. Well, maybe Signal has hired an NSA agent and doesn't know about it either? How does that sound?


> Durov was forced out of the country and had to cell vk.com for peanuts because of his refusal to cooperate with the government.

It wouldn't be the first time a cover story was ever used.

> Well, maybe Signal has hired an NSA agent and doesn't know about it either? How does that sound?

You should presume they're trying. I, frankly, presume they've succeeded, either in placing an agent or by compromising something, in virtually every prominent messaging platform.




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