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As an FYI, LIGO in Eastern Washington offers full tours of the facility inside and out for free. Was a memorable trip and included a lecture before hand. Highly recommend checking it out!


A lot of publicly funded projects give free tours.

For science experiments and infrastructure this makes a lot of sense: we need to tell tax payers why we're taking their money. I'm a bit sad that it's not more widespread for a lot of critical infrastructure e.g. ferries, power plants, factories, etc: it's a great way to get people interested in engineering and big cool public projects.

It's often worth asking, the reactions can vary a lot. For example taking a ferry, I like to poke around and see how everything works:

- In Long Island Sound, even without going through any doors I got someone asking why I'm interested and essentially telling me there's no way in hell I could e.g. see the engine. He seemed to be 5 seconds away from calling the police.

- In Stockholm the engine mechanic noticed me looking around, invited me to climb down the ladder into the engine room, and showed me how everything worked. It was one of the highlights of that trip.


My county started offering tours of our new water treatment plant. I HIGHLY recommend doing that in your area if you get the opportunity!


> In Long Island Sound, even without going through any doors I got someone asking why I'm interested and essentially telling me there's no way in hell I could e.g. see the engine. He seemed to be 5 seconds away from calling the police.

Might have had better luck pre-9/11.

> I'm a bit sad that it's not more widespread for a lot of critical infrastructure e.g. ferries, power plants, factories, etc

The rationale is clear (you may debate the necessity or effectiveness): the concern is that terrorists would scout critical infrastructure before an attack.


This is the internet: I wouldn't dare debate the necessity or effectiveness of counter-terrorism measures here.

But yes: The guy in Long Island said something about DHS or something and both these things happened after 2001.


This is one of the hidden costs of a low-trust society.


So does CERN. Since 2023 they have a new visitor center, which I have yet to visit.


I have visited it in the Easter week, with my 4 year old. It's nice, but I experienced a major disappointment when visiting the immersive experience about the quantum world: they explain quantum entanglement in the wrong way!

The voice-over _clearly_ says: "when two particles are entangled _they can influence each other_ no matter the distance", which is super wrong. If you have two spin entangled particles and you change the spin of one, the spin of the other does not change, there is no influence, only correlation.

Maybe they intended something about the wave function collapse, but they didn't say it. If even explanations coming from CERN get this wrong, I despair for the status of science communication in general...


> If you have two spin entangled particles and you change > the spin of one, the spin of the other does not change

It really irks me we don't use a simple analogy for entanglement: put two balls of different colors in two boxes. Randomize the boxes. Take one of the boxes to the other side of the room then open it.

You now know the colour of the ball in the other box.

Only you can't implement faster-than-light communication with that so we instead mislead people..


That's not the correct analogy. In classical case, the color of the ball is fixed even before you open the box (you just don't know it). But in quantum entanglement case, the spin is not fixed until it is measured (because the wave function hasn't collapsed). But as soon as you measure the spin you get either up or down value. If you get up, then the other entangled particle will necessarily have down value when measured, If you get the spin down, the other particle will necessarily have the spin up. Now you may say that, the spin of the first particle was fixed all along and we just didn't know it. This argument is called "hidden variables theory". But it is proven by Bell's inequality that such a theory cannot exist, so the spin of particle 1 is indeed a random outcome. What's "spooky" is that in spite of it being random, it instantaneously fixes the spin of the other particle.


> But it is proven by Bell's inequality that such a theory cannot exist, so the spin of particle 1 is indeed a random outcome.

It's still allowed so long as a) the theory is nonlocal b) the outcome was not actually independent of the observer or c) superdeterminism.


Yeah, but I didn't "get" (to the extent that I can without grokking maths) quantum entanglement until I had it explained with this analogy, and then the "but that's not exactly what's happening here" real explanation. Leading with the complicated (albeit correct) wave form collapse explanation spun my head around and got me nowhere.

Good pedagogy (like, you know, science itself) starts simple and adds complexity as you dive deeper into the subject.


No. There are no “hidden local variables” (color in your example), and it really is “spooky action from a distance”.

See Bell’s Theorem, this has been mathematically and experimentally proved: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_theorem

This thing that might be confusing you is the action you are taking is collapsing the wave function of a pair of entangled particles (by measuring one of them), so they go from a superposition of up|down to each having one definite value. You can’t repeatedly twiddle the bit here.


Other people are pointing out how its not actually like that, but I'm gonna buck the trend and say, for the purposes of explaining to the general public the basics of quantum mechanics, its perfectly acceptable.

Quantum mechanics is so counterintuitive that you have to re-calibrate people's intuition before you can really pick at the confusing parts.

So picking the nit re: wave function collapse is the right thing to do, but it needs to be done in the context of "...but its weirder than just we don't know what the colors are until we open the box. It turns out that...", rather than just immediately "correcting" the partially, arguably incorrect information.

As a challenge to the folks correcting the OP over neglecting wave function collapse, can any of you describe what is wrong with the infinite square well very-first-mathematical-example-of-quantum-mechanics? Aside from the "infinite" part, I mean.


This ball box analogy is not the same as quantum entanglement … outcome of the boxes are predetermined but not for two entanglement spins …


What? That's simple deduction. Is it really that trivial? Am I missing something?



No, that’s not quite right. You’re taking two wavefunctions that have not collapsed yet.


> The voice-over _clearly_ says: "when two particles are entangled _they can influence each other_ no matter the distance", which is super wrong. If you have two spin entangled particles and you change the spin of one, the spin of the other does not change, there is no influence, only correlation.

Sounds like you subscribe to the Copenhagen interpretation, whereas they’re using a Bohm interpretation.


Granted that I'm not a physicist and I may be wrong about this, but I don't think what you say is correct. This is not a matter of interpretation. In no interpretation changing the spin of an entangled particle will change the spin of the other at a distance.


Imagine if they built fairgrounds next to it and had a ton of science themed rides.

They could call it the CERNival.


Only if it has a very fast merry-go-round that transitions into colliding bumper-cars.


The Hanford nuclear site is also nearby and also does day tours. Such a cool piece of history.


The Goldendale Observatory is a couple hours away, as well.

https://www.goldendaleobservatory.com/visit.html




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