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"As for ukranian nationalism, it was encouraged by the west, with end purpose to get NATO to Russia borders. You see, contrary to what americans would like to believe, there is nothing truly exceptional about your democracy. "

I am not american. And none of this matters to the argument. But if you want a glimpse of my knowledge about the situation, then I can tell you, that already germany in WW1 did encourage ukrainian nationalism.

I am not a fan of any nationalism.

And I also do know that some russian propaganda channels get supressed like RT in the west, which I am also not a fan of - but no one goes to prison or worse because of spreading lies. In russia people went to prison for calling the war a war. And many who did more, accidently fell out of a window. Or died in prison.

So it is no surprise most of Ukraine clearly wants to remain independent and not become russian. No matter who influenced whom at what time. That always happens. What matters is, what people want here and now. And what treatys they signed and broke.




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