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No. They’re not. How people keep falling for this bullshit is beyond me https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/19e8hjf/wh...


Not denying your point, but the people who drive those Mercedes, are not exactly the same people as the ones buying Teslas and posting their successful rides all over the place.


Yes of course. Not a single fan of self driving among buyers and nobody decided to rent one for lulz and/or youtube clout.

Please.


Well, the arguments against goes the same way - if the system was no good, you can be sure that Tesla promoters would have posted 100s of videos of it already.

The fact that they didn't, tells me it's not that bad.


Thats a WILD derivative you came up with lol I salute your perseverance sir


I do not think that the argument "If the Mercedes-Benz system is so good, then where are all the youtube videos?" is a stronger argument than "If the Tesla system is so good, then where is all the regulatory approval and the full legal liability?"

The latter seems much harder to game, to me.

Also, since you've put the goalposts here, I just looked for these videos and other reviews of the MB-system. What do you know, they do exist.


You think all the Tesla videos are gamed?


I don't think your question shows understanding of what I wrote, or good faith.


The point is: The videos of Tesla's FSD are pretty good evidence of their progress.

MB being allowed to keep the lane in certain situations is not much evidence of them progressing towards FSD.


But not in the same category as regulatory approval and full legal liability.

IDK, this is pretty much what I said above already, just in slightly different words. But whatever, you put your full trust and faith in youtube instead if you want.


Videos of cars handling complex situations are a much better indicator of progress than regulatory approval to do very simple things.


Then it's odd that the people with the cool videos didn't manage to get the "easier" regulatory approval. I already said that in different words in a comment above, maybe you missed it?

A video on Youtube is not a "better indicator" for anything serious or requiring certification. It is an entertainment platform at best, spammed full of disinformation and bias. Preferring it over anything else that has legal weight is some kind of credulous joke. But this just restates my above comment on which is easier to game, edit or cherry-pick.


    Then it's odd that the people with the cool videos didn't
    manage to get the "easier" regulatory approval.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39754238

    entertainment platform
It's not the platform that is the indicator. It's the videos.




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