I don’t believe anyone has defended anything of that sort. Simply pointing out what are more bigger issue but we also don’t know how to solve those issues yet.

You along with others have no issue saying plastic is evil, we should ban it, we should tax it, but have done no critical thinking on how to make that actually work.

If this forum has gone to hell, it's because of bad faith arguments.

The person you responded to isn't defending anything, they are just saying it is a lower priority.