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Pretty much all of this is just factually wrong.

> energy requirements increase > > Pollution increases

I can not even fathom how somebody with even rudimentary reasoning skills can actually think that. Its just factually incorrect. The opposite is true.

> time spent in traffic or commuting increases

What an American thing to say. Maybe if your model of a city is a place where there are a few offices in the center and then a bunch of 15 lane highways to a bunch of apparent buildings. But that's not actually what a real city should be like.

First of all, you can live much closer to your job. That means walking or biking work much better.

And density also increases efficiency for public transport. It hilarious to me how in the US many cities people spend hours in traffic everyday. I can take the train to the city centers in literally 5min and I can do that pretty much most of the day.

> space per person decreases

If by 'space' you mean space personally owned space maybe. But that's not how cities work. You have more public space and more places you can go. And if your city doesn't sprawl and convert all the surrounding nature into a hellscape of asphalt and single family homes, nature is actually pretty damn close as well.

So every individual has less space, but in reality, more common nature is preserved.

> but in general it doesn’t appear that increasing density actually improves quality of life. Though it may increase opportunity, that’s not necessarily something an existing community would be improved by.

These existing communities of single family homes all lose money. The city is subsidizing them. Literally the poorest parts of the population subsidizing the rich. People without cars subsidizing the those with cars. That the actual reality, if single family homes had to actually pay their far share, the world would look very different.

Having fairness and equity isn't something that would improve existing communities? Much easier to keep stepping on the poorest people and keep them down, am I right?

Much better to have all people under 16 in suburbs dreaming to get out and get a car. Whole generations of American art is literally dedicated to how incredible boring subberbia is.




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