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Out of Control (1994) (kk.org)
58 points by dannyobrien on Feb 14, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments


This book was seriously influential to me in 1994 when a friend leant me his hard cover copy. Arguably, Out of Control, Snowcrash, (and a less well known book called Goatwalking) defined my whole early 20s aesthetic and outlook.


My favorite term from the book at the time was "hive mind."


Might the title be a reference to Brooks et. al. "Fast Cheap and Out of Control" (1989)?

https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/fast-cheap.pdf


Judging from this section in Chapter 3, I guess so :)

https://kk.org/mt-files/outofcontrol/ch3-b.html


I've had this book on my reading list for a while! Out of Control is referenced heavily in Fred Turner's From Counterculture to Cyberculture.


(Link includes the full text)



Kevin Kelly also wrote What Technology Wants. It has some very interesting ideas, that seep into all other areas.


I think I'm gonna binge on his stuff. He seems like a really cool dude. I recall his optimism getting a lot of flak in the late 2010s but he seems to really care and celebrate think deeply about our culture. That techno-optimism garbage was deeply embarrassing and fascist but I think I can get behind Kelly's brand of optimism. Check out "the third culture" article that I just submitted. So much of the stuff he says in passing in that article is still verrrrry relevant today. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39378589


This is a good book. Themes therein are as relevant as ever.


The acknowledgements on pp396-397 are a good example of "maximising the fringes"!


Dumb q but what does this mean?





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