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How? It's $0.52/kwh here, and before that rate increase, we were paying (edit) $278/mo in the summer for similar (70 year old 3 bedroom house), and slightly lower temepratures.



For context of how crazy that is... here in OH we pay ~$0.12/kwh


Another factor is topography. Ohio is pretty flat and running power lines around it is not that hard. California is big and has lots of rugged terrain. It costs a lot more to bring power to the small town in the California mountains, and those costs have to be paid by the urban and sub-urban customers of our large state-wide utilities.


In reality - PG&E has been soaking the ratepayer for decades while doing terrible maintenance - and now gets to soak the ratepayer again while fixing all the terrible issues they themselves created in the least efficient method possible.

It’s truly amazing to behold.


Keep in mind PG&E rates had to cover billions in stock buybacks, billions in dividends annually, hundreds of millions in fighting municipal power, and billions in profit annually. The terrain isn't the problem, greed is.


I used to live in PA and have several family members on both sides there. No matter the topography the rates are still around that.


My mom in Indiana pays $0.11/kwh.

I pay $0.35/kwh here outside of Boston. The electricity generation part of my bill alone $0.19/kwh dwarfs her entire bill


Time-of-day program with SMUD. Ran the AC as cool as it could go before peak, turned it off during peak. At move-in we dumped multiple feet of insulation (more than code requires) into the place. At worst it got to 80 degrees.

Might have been a bit over $100, but I’m just as flabbergasted at your $278.


I think you are out of touch. You need to compare the PGE rates with SMUD to get the picture.

https://www.smud.org/en/Rate-Information/Residential-rates

https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/resid... (PDF File)

PGE's off-peak rates are 3x SMUD's off-peak rates. PGE's peak rates are 1.5x to almost 2x of SMUD's peak rates.


There’s no need to be disrespectful. Just as I need to understand that you have a different rate than I did, vice versa.

You’re missing the actual point of my original post


> Alright, maybe I’m out of touch, but I don’t think electricity is expensive in California.

This was your first comment in the thread.

If you don't want the point of your original post to be missed, don't make it cryptic and have surprised pikachu face when multiple people miss your point. We are not attending a stand up comedy here to understand your tone in this text format.


Lol. Dogpile away. Imma count my money I saved and sit here in my early retirement.




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