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Interesting, I assume there is some fundamental calculation that takes the radius of the greenhouse and chimney height in order to estimate the energy output.


There's a photonic limit [0]

I think the general idea here is that there's a lot of thermal energy that does not get used in a cost-effective way. IIRC the majority of 'efficiency' wrt energy hitting a panel comes out as heat, and here it's a question of if that heat can cost effectively be stored/used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shockley%E2%80%93Queisser_limi...


The Shockley-Quiesser limit only applies to single junction PV cells. PV will likely eventually go with stacked cells of different bandgaps.


My understanding of this proposition is looking at harvesting the thermal energy, which is beyond PV. The chimney is all about the thermal output.


So why did you post a link to something that's explicitly about PV?


Because it's part of the answer to the poster's question which is considered sound science.

Also that on a large scale the thermal energy of a solar array isn't generally accounted for.


> "there's a lot of thermal energy that does not get used in a cost-effective way"

Reminds me of a discussion in the comments on Terence Eden's blog[1], where a commenter argues that photovoltaic panels on home roofs are not the best idea, and solar-thermal panels are better; an edited summary:

"solar thermal, 4 square meters of roof space will generate 1500kWh per year; to achieve the same with PhotoVoltaics [PV] you would need 16 square meters. Solar thermal would roughly address water heating for showers for a family of 4 for using 4msq of panels. If that doesnt represent a useful amount of energy from a small amount of roof space I don't know what does! And with a lower environmental cost, lower CO2 emission, than PV for that energy."

i.e. it's sad that government subsidies are making PV cheaper than solar-thermal, even though it makes worse use of roof space, with worse CO2 profile.

[1] https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2013/12/free-money-from-the-sky/ - comments by 'ben'


But hot water isn't as useful as electricity.

In summer, when solar is plentiful, radiators aren't run, and showers tend to be cool. In winter, when there's higher demand, there's less solar.

Electricity is fungible. It can become heat, or light, or compute, or just about anything. Hot water isn't that versatile.


The right way to use it is not a greenhouse but a pool of seawater, maybe an existing small bay.

The hot air then dissolves a lot of water vapor, brings it upwards while cooling down and rotating turbines, and releases as fresh water.

Now you have a desalination plant that produces energy, not consumes it.


Yup, and id bet that it doesnt make more than a similarly-sized field of solar panels.




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