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If you're curious about this data for the United States, I built a site that lets you track renewable production, as well as many other interesting datasets about the US electrical grid.

https://www.gridstatus.io/map



It's a nice looking map, I'm personally a big fan of https://app.electricitymaps.com/

I'm sure you could use the same datapoint to cover more zones (cf their Github repo https://github.com/electricitymaps/electricitymaps-contrib/b...)


I am too!

We focus on the United States, so we can have the deepest coverage for each of the regions. In some cases that means were the same as Electricity Maps. In other case, you'll see our data is more real time without relying on estimations.

We have a lot more than generation mix data. For the wholesale energy markets, we also have all the pricing data[1]!

In case you're curious we also have an open source library: https://github.com/kmax12/gridstatus

We'd love to expand, but every new region is hard to support in the same depth as what we currently have in the US

[1] https://www.gridstatus.io/datasets?filter=lmp


This is really neat! Thanks for sharing.

I notice that the map uses OpenStreetMap (via Mapbox, it looks like) for its base data, but doesn't display the required attribution[0]. For fixing this, their Attribution Guidelines[1] are pretty informative. Mapbox also has some helpful docs[2], and may have some additional requirements. Thanks!

Edit: After a bit of digging, I'm a bit unimpressed: it looks like the OSM and Mapbox attributions are deliberately hidden? From your compiled index.css:

    .mapboxgl-ctrl-logo,
    .mapboxgl-ctrl-attrib-inner {
      display: none !important;
    }

[0]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright

[1]: https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Attribution_Guideline...

[2]: https://docs.mapbox.com/help/getting-started/attribution/


fixed!


Looks great! Thanks for doing that so quickly :)


The variation in price is crazy, $80/MWH for Atlantic vs. $20-$30 for many other regions?


Indeed! One of the reason I made this site is to make it easier to track all the prices in one spot


That's awesome! Why is the PNW power-source display an x-y plot and the Midwest and Texas and New England (the others I looked at) are pies? I see in the PNW plot there's a ~constant output from nuclear and the other sources are more variable (x-t plot makes it easier to see this) but nuclear is a source of energy in the other locations with pie charts, as well.


Nuclear is strictly a base load power source. It takes on the scale of "many hours" to days to change generation level at a nuke, and there's intense economic pressure to operate them at full capacity as much as possible because its opex is largely fixed and enormous (as is the capex from construction.)

This is why all the people shrieking about how evil the public was/is for 'irrationally' hating nuclear and how we need more nuclear (here, on twitter, and reddit) are idiots, especially when they talk about it providing "grid stability" because of those naughty, highly variable renewables.

Grid stability comes from fast-reacting power sources like natural gas, hydro, and energy storage systems like pumped hydro and batteries. The most famous example of this is in the UK, where pumped hydro is fast enough to react to "The Great British Kettle Surge" aka TV pickup:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup

Video covering Electric Mountain (9GWHr capacity) by Tom Scott: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI

Any time someone opens their mouth and says nuclear is the solution to "days with no sun or wind", you can immediately discount everything else that comes out of their mouth as being from a person who doesn't understand the first thing about electrical grids/generation.

Even if it were feasible to change power levels fast enough to react to wind and solar generation changing from a physics standpoint, no power authority in the world would keep nuclear generation (the most expensive form of power generation already) capacity in reserve for a cloudy day.

What we need are more renewable sources, more energy storage, and a wide-scale HVDC distribution network to be able to cost-effectively move power from areas where there is strong generation by renewables to areas that need it, or at least into storage.


It depends on the source of the data. For the regions with the pie charts, those are Independent System Operators (ISOs) or Regional Transmission Organizations (RTOs). They publish much more data and is more real time than the other regions, so we have different pages to display them.


I'm surprised how much is nuclear in the states I have lived in. The fact that California is almost 50% solar is pretty crazy too.


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This is not constructive for HN


That debatable. I’ve seen plenty of constructive criticism of government policies on this site.


If this was constructive criticism I wouldn’t have said anything. Not that hard to clean it up, if you want to use an article about Portugal’s renewable policy to make a point about homelessness in California, and the governance of it, then just make your point without demonizing people, give constructive criticism (i.e. this is bad because the outcomes for society are bad, as evidenced by [x] and [y] and I think California should be doing Z, which worked in Z country, here are the outcomes: [z_link]


Demonizing violent junkies is kinda key to my constructive criticism.


Cool. Take it somewhere else. You can pop off on X or Facebook or whatever, that content doesn’t belong on HN.

You’ll get flagged and removed on HN for talking like that. Check the contribution guidelines, ask @dang yourself if you don’t believe me.

I’m sure you’re chaffing at me even suggesting moderate speech here, but this corner of the internet isn’t polluted like the others. I don’t use social media, I use this, for that reason. I’m just asking you to abide by the ground rules


Much respect for the amount of ETL you must have written to accomplish this. I have a local dashboard that duplicates some, not all, of your features for CAISO only and that was more than enough work.

ETA: Can I ask why you don't have records for CAISO storage charge level?


Wow, the Arizona area is disappointing to say the least. All that sun and almost no solar power.


Most of Arizona and any other states energy need is not electricity. Only around 20% of it is.


All I see is a “Tap the Region” button and nothing else on the iPhone 13 Pro


hmm, ill have to look into that. in that case, check out this listing of all the areas we support: https://www.gridstatus.io/eia.

also, if anyone else has this problem please comment / email me max@gridstatus.io




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